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Title: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: Walking Englishman on 07:05:37, 15/01/10
What has happened to the facility to post pictures. When I clicked insert image on this message it opened a scripted window asking for a website and not for the usual search to a file on my PC.
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: glovepuppet on 07:44:05, 15/01/10
I'm not sure. As a newbie of only a few weeks, I asked about posting pics and there was some convoluted method of posting (unlike some other forums I've used) which seemed to involve organising your photos on some other website first before attaching to your post here.
 
So I decided not to bother.
 
Maybe the method of inserting pics has changed?
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: angry climber on 07:46:27, 15/01/10
Check out the discription on the top thread of photography it is really helpfull
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: glovepuppet on 08:10:22, 15/01/10
Check out the discription on the top thread of photography it is really helpfull

As I was saying ........
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: Walking Englishman on 08:35:39, 15/01/10
I'm not using Tinypic, so no pictures from me alas.
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: Walking Englishman on 08:42:10, 15/01/10
there was some convoluted method of posting (unlike some other forums I've used) which seemed to involve organising your photos on some other website first before attaching to your post here.
 
So I decided not to bother.

I suspect walking forum and tinypic are mutually gaining out of this. Why has the forum removed the simplest way of posting by forcing us to use the Tinypic site. A bad bad move walking forum.
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: dibble on 08:50:47, 15/01/10
I use photo bucket.
 
For a long time, I couldn't post on here.
 
I made it an aim, to be able to.
 
Now I can.
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: KIDSTYPIKE on 09:04:39, 15/01/10
(http://www.wainwright-wanderings.co.uk/OP060-0015_small.jpg)
 
Works OK here
 
Ah sorry thats from my website and not a PC file
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: angry climber on 09:14:43, 15/01/10
I only posted my one and only photo yesterday in rouges gallery
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: Addacomb on 09:41:41, 15/01/10
I only posted my one and only photo yesterday in rouges gallery
Don't feel pressured - I'm sure none of us are expecting a flood ::)
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: ramblingpete on 09:57:10, 15/01/10

I suspect walking forum and tinypic are mutually gaining out of this.Why has the forum removed the simplest way of posting by forcing us touse the Tinypic site. A bad bad move walking forum.

You are free to post pictures asyou see fit (plenty of host sites available) - the tinypic was written as a guide for those who werestruggling with uploading pictures. I think the admin removed the facility to upload from a PC due to bandwidth or something or other.

As for being a bad bad move? - It hasn't stopped the majority from posting their pictures O0
Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
Post by: Addacomb on 10:12:00, 15/01/10
I missed that one. Conspiracy theory regarding photos? A new one on me. I re-iterate my colleague - anyone can use any hosting site they care to - whatever works best for them. As for ALL other forums being able to upload from PC - not by a long shot! Many on the last year have moved to hosting as opposed to direct upload. It enables the size of the photo to be hosted by an external server, as opposed to the forum's own hosted server. Chris no doubt pays for used space - photos use a lot of disc space - you only have to see the sizes of your own collections to see that!

I use this:

 
  • Uploading photos:
     
    Method: Look Pic http://www.lookpic.com/ (http://www.lookpic.com/)
     
    In the “Upload your image:” box, either type in the locationof the file you wish to upload, or select the browse button. Navigate to the file/photo and click open. Now select the upload button.


  • Now, the server will receive your image upload request andreturn some image options (the time it takes to complete this process isdependent on internet bottlenecks and site loading. Note: the image upload maytime out at this stage. If so, try again. If it repeatedly times out, try at aquieter time of day). Now copy the particular line of thumbnail code you wishto use and simply copy that into your post.


  • The most appropriate code for adding a photo, where you wishthe image to be readily viewable on the forum page is the “Hotlink for forums”choice, beginning [IMG].........
    Add each image individually and post the corresponding codeinto your post.


    (I would have included links but as I'm watching test cricket on the internet I cannot upload the pics due to my bandwidth needs :) )
  • Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Chris on 10:36:24, 15/01/10
    You can still upload pictures from your PC to the server. When you post click on Additional Options and you will see the box where you browse to the file on your PC. The file size is limited to 80K.
     
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: glovepuppet on 10:47:57, 15/01/10
    Testing, testing ....

    By Jove, I think I've got it!
     
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Addacomb on 10:51:32, 15/01/10
    Testing, testing ....

    By Jove, I think I've got it!
    Got it twice but yes O0
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: glovepuppet on 10:54:03, 15/01/10
    You can still upload pictures from your PC to the server. When you post click on Additional Options and you will see the box where you browse to the file on your PC. The file size is limited to 80K.

    Thanks for this Chris - it does seem to work direct from a PC as long as the file size is less than 80k. I suspect that may be where I went wrong before.
     
    Isn't 80k a tad on the small side though? My photos even at c 800 x 600 are usually quite a bit over that!
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: glovepuppet on 10:55:24, 15/01/10
    Got it twice but yes O0

    This was simply to test the ability of adding more than one photo at a time, providing it was less than 80k.
     
    Honest!  ;D
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Addacomb on 10:57:06, 15/01/10
    Oh OK ;)

    Were they direct from PC then GP?
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: glovepuppet on 11:04:54, 15/01/10
    Oh OK ;)

    Were they direct from PC then GP?

    Yeah. IMHO, my SOS was OMG and I thought WTF. But now I'm AOK.
     
    TTFN
     
    GP  :)
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Chris on 11:06:30, 15/01/10

    Thanks for this Chris - it does seem to work direct from a PC as long as the file size is less than 80k. I suspect that may be where I went wrong before.
     
    Isn't 80k a tad on the small side though? My photos even at c 800 x 600 are usually quite a bit over that!
    It has always been 80k to keep the forum's bandwidth down.
     
    The alternative is to use www.tinypic.com (http://www.tinypic.com/) where there is no file size limit, the pictures are bigger and clearer, can be posted anywhere in your posts, and takes up no server bandwidth.
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Addacomb on 11:14:28, 15/01/10

    Yeah. IMHO, my SOS was OMG and I thought WTF. But now I'm AOK.
     
    TTFN
     
    GP  :)
    OTT TLA GP!!!
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Bigdave73 on 11:17:48, 15/01/10
    Testing
     
    (http://i47.tinypic.com/213je46.jpg)
     
     
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: dibble on 11:56:17, 15/01/10
    Thanks for the further info, on this thread,
     
    and I had never realised this...
    I only posted my one and only photo yesterday in rouges gallery

     
    And, fun trying to work out the letters...
    Quote
    OTT TLA GP!!!
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Addacomb on 12:15:21, 15/01/10
    Thanks for the further info, on this thread,
     
    and I had never realised this...
     
    And, fun trying to work out the letters...
    Over The Top use of the Three Letter Acronym  O0
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: angry climber on 12:18:29, 15/01/10
    OTT TLA GP!!!

    Over The Top Three Letter Abbreviations Glove Puppet
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: angry climber on 12:20:21, 15/01/10
    I get the answer but because I cant spell abbreviations and have to spell check and so on I get beat to the chase
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: angry climber on 12:22:16, 15/01/10
    Quote from Good Morning Vietnam
     
    "Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P."
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: cozza and his dog on 13:17:36, 15/01/10
    ive posted pics this week had no problems....hope you get sorted cozza O0
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Walking Englishman on 15:54:59, 15/01/10
    Here goes, had to make it this small to upload.
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Micky on 17:02:16, 15/01/10
    I use Photobucket like a lot do on here, and I have no issues. It's easy to use (it has to be for me) and gives some great results. You can store your pictures on there so you don't use valuable space on your own PC.  ;)
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Peakbagger on 17:04:52, 15/01/10
    I suspect walking forum and tinypic are mutually gaining out of this.

    I think you're being bang out of order making such an accusation with no evidence what so ever to back it up. No gains are being made at all. The reason, and the only reason tinypic was chosen was because after exhaustive testing carried out by myself of the various image hosting websites tinypic was found to be the most reliable and easiest to use (and therefore easier to write a step by step guide for). I guess it's nice to know that all the effort I put into creating that guide is appreciated... ::) (Actually quite a few people have thanked me for creating that guide so I know most on here appreciate it)
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: angry climber on 17:26:22, 15/01/10

    I suspect walking forum and tinypic are mutually gaining out of this. Why has the forum removed the simplest way of posting by forcing us to use the Tinypic site. A bad bad move walking forum.

    I missed this comment and I have to agree walking Englishman your comments are not fair. I used the guide yesterday for the first time and found the experience easy. No one is forcing anyone to do something they don't want too. If you don't want to post pics that's up to you but your comment was unnecessary   
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: amnesiacjimmy on 18:01:43, 15/01/10

    Yeah. IMHO, my SOS was OMG and I thought WTF. But now I'm AOK.
     
    TTFN
     
    GP  :)
     
    TFFT!
     
    think about  it  8)
     
    Dave
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Walking Englishman on 18:26:03, 15/01/10
    I think you're being bang out of order making such an accusation with no evidence what so ever to back it up. No gains are being made at all. The reason, and the only reason tinypic was chosen was because after exhaustive testing carried out by myself of the various image hosting websites tinypic was found to be the most reliable and easiest to use (and therefore easier to write a step by step guide for). I guess it's nice to know that all the effort I put into creating that guide is appreciated... (http://walkingforum.co.uk/Smileys/alive/rolleyes.gif) (Actually quite a few people have thanked me for creating that guide so I know most on here appreciate it)
     
    Oops, I have touched a nerve and I apologise if I have caused distress. I have a simple point to make. Why hide the most straightforward way to upload from a PC at all, not everyone is a PC expert like yourself. Sites which let users post large files, You Tube being the most obvious example have a simple from PC file upload system. The guide you have provided is easy to you and computer experts but complicated for simple PC users and the means of going through a 3rd party site to post in what is supposed to be a user friendly forum is one interface too many. That is a fact for infrequent users. I am not the only one who found the change confusing. I reiterate I apologise if you are upset, I am simply stating you have made a complication to what was a simple process. 
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Addacomb on 18:37:54, 15/01/10
    I don't recall any changes. The method of using a third party photo hosting site was in place when I joined in Feb 2009. The method we use is also the norm for most forums that are hosted. The forums that are bespoke will normally do their own hosting of photos. These require the use of the owner's own server and software people to maintain the database etc which, obviously, will incur high running costs. This forum is not an example of the latter and as a result we have to operate under certain constrictions.
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: dibble on 18:52:00, 15/01/10
    I use Photobucket like a lot do on here, and I have no issues. It's easy to use (it has to be for me) and gives some great results. You can store your pictures on there so you don't use valuable space on your own PC.  ;)

    Hi Micky, thanks for sharing this......does that mean then that I can now delete the photos from my computer because I have put them on photobucket?
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Peakbagger on 18:55:13, 15/01/10
    Oops, I have touched a nerve and I apologise if I have caused distress.

    Perhaps I flew off the handle a little there so please excuse me if I was a bit short with you.

    I have a simple point to make. Why hide the most straightforward way to upload from a PC at all, not everyone is a PC expert like yourself. Sites which let users post large files, You Tube being the most obvious example have a simple from PC file upload system. The guide you have provided is easy to you and computer experts but complicated for simple PC users and the means of going through a 3rd party site to post in what is supposed to be a user friendly forum is one interface too many. That is a fact for infrequent users. I am not the only one who found the change confusing. I reiterate I apologise if you are upset, I am simply stating you have made a complication to what was a simple process.

    The idea behind creating the guide was hopefully to make what I accept is perhaps a daunting process a little easier to follow and I hope it has achieved that.

    Unfortunately the simple fact is it all comes down to cost. We would love to be able to offer an easier solution where by members can upload their photo's to the forum's server but it would require a huge increase in both harddrive size and bandwidth which would cost us a lot more money. Currently the costs incurred from running this forum are paid for by the advertising that you see on the forum (Google & Amazon currently) but they simply do not pay enough for us to be able to increase our harddrive size and bandwidth usage, the current running costs are barely covered as it is! To achieve the funding to pay for the additional resources required to host everyone's photo's would require us to adopt a different tack; more advertising perhaps or even a membership fee, both of which I'm sure would prove unpopular and could even prove damaging. This is the reason why we ask that members use a third party image host and the choice of which one to use is entirely up to the individual.
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Micky on 19:02:07, 15/01/10

    Hi Micky, thanks for sharing this......does that mean then that I can now delete the photos from my computer because I have put them on photobucket?

    Yes Dibble you can free some space up on your PC if the pictures are on Photo Bucket, it's quite a good site because you can put your pictures into different folders that you name yourself. You can also share these pictures with others by giving them the password to the particular folder they are in.
     
    If you like you can also put your pictures from your PC onto a disc before you delete them.  :)
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Addacomb on 19:06:59, 15/01/10
    Dibble - I re-iterate Micky's comments. Never delete stuff unless you have at least one backup. I'd actually say with photos you should have two archives. USB memory sticks are cheap as an alternative option. I have an external hard drive with them on plus a USB device where they are also stored. You can never have too many copies. Hard drives may seem to be bomb-proof but they can die just like any computing device.
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Micky on 19:09:38, 15/01/10
    Dibble - I re-iterate Micky's comments. Never delete stuff unless you have at least one backup. I'd actually say with photos you should have two archives. USB memory sticks are cheap as an alternative option. I have an external hard drive with them on plus a USB device where they are also stored. You can never have too many copies. Hard drives may seem to be bomb-proof but they can die just like any computing device.

    Good point Simon, thanks.  O0
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: dibble on 19:17:57, 15/01/10
    Thank you Simon and Micky.  I have not been taking photos of my walks for that long and so for a while all my photos were saved as Ennerdale!
     
    I will save them elsewhere before I delete and thanks for the tip.
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: angry climber on 03:42:20, 16/01/10
    I just lost nearly everything due to a virus on my PC photos were backed up but I lost all my I tunes and apple are not willing to help. Not there fault to be fair. I am buying and external hard drive you can pick one up for about £40 so I will do that 
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Addacomb on 05:44:23, 16/01/10
    I just lost nearly everything due to a virus on my PC photos were backed up but I lost all my I tunes and apple are not willing to help. Not there fault to be fair. I am buying and external hard drive you can pick one up for about £40 so I will do that
    That's one of the problems with downloading. I'm sure that there will be some suppliers who wold replace but many wouldn't and are not duty bound. That's one of many reasons I'll never download. Unless you want portable music I see little need with options like Spotify - how's that going now Angry?

    I lost all our photos some years ago when a hard drive failed. That encompassed about 3 years worth, including almost every photo of one of our dogs - it was a heart-breaker. The trouble was no backup - and that for someone who had worked 20 years in IT! I was not alone in the industry regarding negligence with my own files! Never again. The stupid thing is that at the point of formatting the hard disk to start again I thought for a moment and asked myself if I needed to try and get anything off it!!!! My god when I realised.......I nearly split my cummerbund! 
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: dibble on 06:30:19, 16/01/10
    I lost a lot of photos last summer when the disc in the camera failed.
    I deleted the photos and started again and it has been fine this time.
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Walking Englishman on 09:54:53, 16/01/10
    Perhaps I flew off the handle a little there so please excuse me if I was a bit short with you.

    The idea behind creating the guide was hopefully to make what I accept is perhaps a daunting process a little easier to follow and I hope it has achieved that.

    Unfortunately the simple fact is it all comes down to cost. We would love to be able to offer an easier solution where by members can upload their photo's to the forum's server but it would require a huge increase in both harddrive size and bandwidth which would cost us a lot more money. Currently the costs incurred from running this forum are paid for by the advertising that you see on the forum (Google & Amazon currently) but they simply do not pay enough for us to be able to increase our harddrive size and bandwidth usage, the current running costs are barely covered as it is! To achieve the funding to pay for the additional resources required to host everyone's photo's would require us to adopt a different tack; more advertising perhaps or even a membership fee, both of which I'm sure would prove unpopular and could even prove damaging. This is the reason why we ask that members use a third party image host and the choice of which one to use is entirely up to the individual.

    Thank you for explaining the reason for the change. Can I suggest something, now I know the reason for the change, which I perfectly understand. When I asked my wife to try to post a photograph on the forum (note I gave her no tips or background information) she was immediately confused when the script box asking for a website popped up. She did not know what to do, probably as confused as glovepuppet was (see second post on this thread). Can you add a pop up box explaining there is an option or alternatively point them to your guide so they know the options instead of having to give up through lack of knowledge. After all, when I tried I was stuck for a while until I searched out your guide. And I like to think I know a bit about computers. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: cozza and his dog on 10:18:29, 16/01/10
    i had problems at first but with the help of many of the great members on here i mastered it.....tinypic top site thats all i can say...cozza O0
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: JulianC on 11:11:49, 16/01/10
    If Mohamed will not go to the mountain, the mountain must come to Mohamed

    ;D
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Addacomb on 11:15:33, 16/01/10
    If Mohamed will not go to the mountain, the mountain must come to Mohamed

    ;D
    "What has Mohammed got to do with my wife?"
    Title: Re: Cannnot post pictures
    Post by: Peakbagger on 18:09:17, 16/01/10
    When I asked my wife to try to post a photograph on the forum (note I gave her no tips or background information) she was immediately confused when the script box asking for a website popped up. She did not know what to do, probably as confused as glovepuppet was (see second post on this thread). Can you add a pop up box explaining there is an option or alternatively point them to your guide so they know the options instead of having to give up through lack of knowledge. After all, when I tried I was stuck for a while until I searched out your guide. And I like to think I know a bit about computers. Thanks.

    Ah, I think you may have uncovered a small flaw in my guide there as I don't mention the script box. When we upgraded the forum software a new feature was added called the WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) editor which is enabled by default. Personally I detested the thing as it made editing posts especially difficult so it's disabled in my profile and, to be honest, it slipped my mind that many people here would still have it enabled. What I'll have to do is amend the guide to include the script box and how to use it.