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Title: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
Post by: TheGUYuk on 00:35:29, 02/10/12
Mountain AdviceMountains and moorlands can be treacherous places without proper care and there are many, many ways to enjoy the mountain environment, be it walking, climbing, running, cycling or skiing. There's no subsititute for experience, but there are steps you can take to minimise the chances of getting lost or hurt.Prepare and plan
  • Develop the mountain skills you need to judge potential hazard, including the ability to read a map.
  • Think about the equipment, experience, capabilities and enthusiasm of your         party members, taking into account the time of year, the terrain and the nature of the trip – and choose your routes accordingly.
  • Learn the basic principles of first aid – airway, breathing, circulation and the recovery position. It could make the difference between life and death.
  • Wear suitable clothing and footwear
  • Wear suitable footwear with a treaded sole, and which provides support for ankles.
  • Clothing should be colourful, warm, windproof and waterproof and always carry spare, including hat and gloves (even in summer the tops and open moorland can still be bitingly cold, and it's always colder the higher you climb).
  • Carry food and drink...http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice (http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice)
     
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    • Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: angry climber on 00:53:16, 02/10/12
    I don't agree that clothing needs to be colourful. I have worn blacks and greys for ages now. Ever since on my Winter Mountain Leader course I was advised to stick to basic colours so my equipment looked more professional and matched.
    If I got into trouble I would use my red survival bivi bag to attract attention.     
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: guess who on 10:12:26, 03/10/12
    Quote from: angry climber on 00:53:16, 02/10/12
    I don't agree that clothing needs to be colourful. I have worn blacks and greys for ages now. Ever since on my Winter Mountain Leader course I was advised to stick to basic colours so my equipment looked more professional and matched.
    If I got into trouble I would use my red survival bivi bag to attract attention.   

    Honest question AC. What would you do if you feel forward, put both arms out and broke them both?

    Wearing colourful clothing means you would have a better chance of being seen.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: sussamb on 10:19:24, 03/10/12
    Think you can always come up with a scenario that defeats anyone no matter how well prepared.  I'm with AC, always stuck with darker colours and should I ever need to attract attention will do so with my orange bag/sack cover.  Course if I've fallen into a deep hole even colourful clothing wouldn't help  ;) ;D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: guess who on 10:35:39, 03/10/12
    Quote from: sussamb on 10:19:24, 03/10/12
    Think you can always come up with a scenario that defeats anyone no matter how well prepared.


    Very true. However this actually happened to a guy in America. I saw a TV about it ages ago and its stuck in my mind since.
    In the same show was the story, of a guy who used to wear camo gear all the time. He had fallen and could get help. He had gone a different way to the one he told his wife. The rescue services were looking the wrong way. Some hiker found him.

    The show showed where he had fallen. You could see it from the carpark where his car was. He could not be seen with the clothing he was wearing, but if he had a red coat on he would have been seen. They proved this by having someone sit where he was found and wear the two types of clothing.

    AC mentions about been told what to wear when he was on a Winter Mountain Leader course. I would take a guess and say that, that advice applies more to him working as a Mountain Leader, rather than walking on his own.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: mananddog on 12:02:14, 03/10/12
    I wear dark colour because I do not want to be a blot on the landscape. I would do with walkers in bright clothing what the Nat Parks do with caravans - Paint them green!  ;D
     
    I am responsible for my safety. If I make a mistake it is my responsibility to try and get out of it.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: sussamb on 12:09:10, 03/10/12
     ;D ;D O0 O0
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: robstubbs on 12:49:41, 03/10/12
    Quote from: sussamb on 10:19:24, 03/10/12
    Think you can always come up with a scenario that defeats anyone no matter how well prepared.  I'm with AC, always stuck with darker colours and should I ever need to attract attention will do so with my orange bag/sack cover.  Course if I've fallen into a deep hole even colourful clothing wouldn't help  ;) ;D

    Same here.  I'm sure there's circumstances where folks have survived because of their dark clothing, but they are no doubt equally rare.  People must decide for themselves what is and isn't appropriate for them.
     
    Rob.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Walking Dog on 13:37:05, 03/10/12
    Actually I wear what fits be best within what I can afford!! Being of a 'larger' size that it my first consideration before colour, although I find bright pink doesn't quite suit  ;D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Slogger on 16:40:29, 03/10/12
    I don't think it is neccesary to blend into the background when out walking (you are not a permanent fixture).
    Imo it is best to wear colours that do stand out so that you can be found more easily and not make the job of mountain rescue services more difficult.
    Sure everyone is responsible for their own safety and should self extract from the hills if possible to do so, but anyone no matter how well prepared can trip, bash their head and end up unconscious. A bright survival bag in your rucsack will not be any help then.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: angry climber on 17:01:34, 03/10/12
    Quote from: guess who on 10:12:26, 03/10/12
    Honest question AC. What would you do if you feel forward, put both arms out and broke them both?

    Wearing colourful clothing means you would have a better chance of being seen.

    Honest answer mate. If I fell forward and broke both arms resulting in my not being able to retrieve my survival bag I possibly would also not be able to retrive my mobile phone or whistle to call for help. I would quickly become cold and have no way of alerting anyone to my peril. No matter what colour you are wearing if no one is looking for you in the first place then it really does not matter what colours you are wearing. Yes a bright yellow jacket may be noticed better than a black one but only if someone is looking for it.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: angry climber on 17:05:29, 03/10/12
    Quote from: Slogger on 16:40:29, 03/10/12
    I don't think it is neccesary to blend into the background when out walking (you are not a permanent fixture).
    Imo it is best to wear colours that do stand out so that you can be found more easily and not make the job of mountain rescue services more difficult.
    Sure everyone is responsible for their own safety and should self extract from the hills if possible to do so, but anyone no matter how well prepared can trip, bash their head and end up unconscious. A bright survival bag in your rucsack will not be any help then.

    I refer you to my previous answer if your knocked unconscious then who knows you are hurt. If you are recorded missing because you fail to appear then a search is likely to start at night wearing a red jacket at night is only marginally better than a grey one. A beam of a head torch still has to hit the object. Or the search light of a helicopter.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Ridge Walker on 18:53:33, 03/10/12
    Mountain saftey is not based on how bright your clothing is  ;D
     
    AW came up with a gem and its the best piece of advice ever, " Watching where one puts ones feet speaks volumes for mountain saftey O0
     
    Plan your route, have escscapes routes mapped out. No mattter how far from reaching an intended summit, if weather conditions turn for the worse or your not feeling yourself,  dont even think about it. Be prepared to turn back   :)     
     
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: robstubbs on 21:25:52, 03/10/12
    Quote from: Slogger on 16:40:29, 03/10/12
    Imo it is best to wear colours that do stand out so that you can be found more easily and not make the job of mountain rescue services more difficult.
    Do you really go out thinking about being rescued ?  If you do then I would suggest you're in the wrong frame of mind before you even start.  And do you propose that folks change from their bright yellow to a nice dark colour for walking in snow ?


    There's common sense precautions and being prepared which everyone here seems to support.  As mentioned below though safety doesn't depend on the colour of your clothing.


    Rob.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: moonchip on 23:57:46, 03/10/12
    I can understand the MR comment about colour in an ideal world , but like many others I go for fit & comfort over what colour it is. By choice most of my gear is grey or black/navy blue - all my Merino tops are blue which seems to be the only colour they come in.


    Like AC said, I too always carry a dayglo red survival bag and agree wholeheartedly that you are responsible for your own safety and planning accordingly.


    The only colourways I don't wear by choice are ex army 'camo' DPM styles .......



    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: April on 12:42:39, 04/10/12
    Finding walking gear of any colour is difficult for me because I'm a UK size 6. Most shops don't even have size 8 so I have to trawl on the internet to find clothes that fit and even that is problematic. The only colours I've ever been able to buy is black. I carry an orange and grey rucksack and carry an orange survival bag. I agree with Ridge Walker - you can't get better advice than from AW - watch where you're putting your feet!
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: guess who on 14:10:54, 04/10/12
    Quote from: April on 12:42:39, 04/10/12
    Finding walking gear of any colour is difficult for me because I'm a UK size 6. Most shops don't even have size 8 so I have to trawl on the internet to find clothes that fit and even that is problematic. The only colours I've ever been able to buy is black. I carry an orange and grey rucksack and carry an orange survival bag. I agree with Ridge Walker - you can't get better advice than from AW - watch where you're putting your feet!

    You need to go on my diet, trust me you wont be a size 6 for long ;) ;D ;D ;D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: sussamb on 14:37:49, 04/10/12
    Guess that's the seafood diet ... see food and eat it  ;D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: robb on 14:42:24, 04/10/12
    You'd have thought in this day and age MRT teams would be equipped with the same basic amenities as SAR currently have, including InfaRed cameras to spot heat-sources out amongst the mountains. Personally i've taken red bivvy bags and rudimentary flares, the kind shipping uses. Luckily i've never had the need to deploy either.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: guess who on 15:03:44, 04/10/12
    Quote from: sussamb on 14:37:49, 04/10/12
    Guess that's the seafood diet ... see food and eat it  ;D

    Nail, hit, hammer  ;)
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: sussamb on 15:04:27, 04/10/12
     ;D ;D ;D O0
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: April on 16:58:12, 04/10/12
    I stuff my face with a cheese pasty, crisps (2 packets), banana, chocolate and scone when I stop for something to eat on a hike. It's really funny because people stare in amazement wondering how I eat so much and still be on the 'small' side! ;D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Slogger on 17:36:45, 04/10/12
    Quote from: robstubbs on 21:25:52, 03/10/12
    Do you really go out thinking about being rescued ?  If you do then I would suggest you're in the wrong frame of mind before you even start.  And do you propose that folks change from their bright yellow to a nice dark colour for walking in snow ?

    What a ridiculous thing to say.
    So you are arguing that wearing clothing in colours that stand out from the surrounding is wrong, and anyone that does is setting out thinking about being rescued. (Doh!)
    I suggest to you that it is you that is in the wrong frame of mind, before and after you start.

    To add, see under clothing. That will do for me, now argue against that.
    http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice (http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice)
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Wurz on 18:09:01, 04/10/12
    Quote from: angry climber on 00:53:16, 02/10/12
    I don't agree that clothing needs to be colourful. I have worn blacks and greys for ages now. Ever since on my Winter Mountain Leader course I was advised to stick to basic colours so my equipment looked more professional and matched.
    If I got into trouble I would use my red survival bivi bag to attract attention.   


    I've never considered a colour co-ordinated guide to be more professional than one that didn't accessorize.  ;)
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: robstubbs on 20:01:17, 04/10/12
    Not ridiculous at all.  How many people end up needing rescuing ?  A massively small minority and to suggest everyone else should go prepared as if they would be is just non-sensical, no matter who says so.  Like I said, if you think you're going to need rescuing then you should stay at home.

    Rob.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: happyhiker on 20:41:38, 04/10/12
    Not long ago, I bought a new Gortex waterproof. It is a very bright red. I bought it because I liked the colour!
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: angry climber on 23:11:24, 04/10/12
    Quote from: Wurz on 18:09:01, 04/10/12

    I've never considered a colour co-ordinated guide to be more professional than one that didn't accessorize.  ;)


    Why not. If you hire any person to do a job for you and he turns up looking like last weeks washing then you are going to think that his work is like his attire, sloppy. If you present yourself well then you talk confidently and well spoken it makes you seem more professional. You might be [censored] at guiding but you look the part. You have to remember first impressions last. Most people will have never met you until you introduce yourself. If you look smart and confident then you settle the client as well. If you look sloppy and ill prepared you will worry the client. Its still basic Customer service whether you are a guide or a receptionist at a company desk. You are the first face of the business.   
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: mike knipe on 10:05:21, 05/10/12
    AC's right, of course, if somebody is providing a professional service, specially one that might carry some risk, then that person needs to look the part as a starter - and the state of the advisor's kit would be an important first impression. And it's a hard fact that more subdued colours make an individual appear to be a more serious operator than somebody dressed in bright clothing, specially if the clothes clash with each other.
     
    But the argument here seems to be whether or not to wear "colourful" clothing and whether or not the Mountain Rescue peeps advice is correct.
     
    In the same paragraph, the rescuers tell us to wear appropriate footwear with a good tread and support for the ankles. And it seems that whilst I do personally follow this by personal choice, there are many walkers nowadays who wear trail shoes - including people whom many consider to be experts on gear - such as Chris Townsend, for instance. These shoes aren't even waterproof and the wearers seem to just accept that they'll get wet feet and that they might have to tread more thoughtfuly but that they'll use less energy and move faster due to the fact that they're carrying less weight.
     
    So, it's a matter of personal choice and experienced hillwalkers can make their own judgement as to what's safe and what isn't. Whilst others should stick to what they're told to do.
     
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: TheGUYuk on 11:37:59, 05/10/12
    Being a bit of a Devil here  ::)  but Rescue teams wear RED does that make them less professional ??? ;)
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: AndrewLeary on 12:28:42, 05/10/12
    I have a bright red jacket for walking, just bought to replace a bright purple one. I evn thought in the shop that if I was in situation where I needed help, then a bright colour would help, and that the greens, greys, and black's wouldn't.
     
    I also wear the walking shoes, as for some reason I have a dodgy ankle bone that makes walking in boots very painfull. I just make sure that I walk carefully using common sense. And yes, wet feet are part of the deal, but it is a small thing to cope with.
     
    The rules we (me and senior management) follow are -
    Never to start a walk we cannot finish.
    If things get bad weather wise, we can easily turn back - the mountains ain't gonna run away.
    Proper shoes, clothing, food, basic first aid kit, map, compass, sapmap, and drinks are always taken.
     
    Hopefully we will never need the MRT, but you never know  :)
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: angry climber on 15:14:24, 05/10/12
    Quote from: Theguyuk on 11:37:59, 05/10/12
    Being a bit of a Devil here  ::)  but Rescue teams wear RED does that make them less professional ??? ;)

    I hope my answer is taken as lighthearted as I mean it to come across. MRT teams love the idea of uniformity. Most teams do wear (with a few exceptions) red and black jackets and black trousers. Budget constraints don't really allow full teams to be kitted out at once but I am sure that most teams would love to have all the same uniformed gear for all there members. If you speak to any of the team leaders they were mostly envious of the RAF MRT Teams because they always had budgets that allowed uniformity.

    If you look back at what I said earlier I was told to stick to a basic couple of colours. I chose black and greys. MRT teams pick red and black but the same basic principle stands.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: guess who on 16:22:38, 05/10/12
    Quote from: angry climber on 17:01:34, 03/10/12
    Honest answer mate. If I fell forward and broke both arms resulting in my not being able to retrieve my survival bag I possibly would also not be able to retrive my mobile phone or whistle to call for help. I would quickly become cold and have no way of alerting anyone to my peril. No matter what colour you are wearing if no one is looking for you in the first place then it really does not matter what colours you are wearing. Yes a bright yellow jacket may be noticed better than a black one but only if someone is looking for it.

    Cheers for that AC.

    One thing that would seriously help is if people left a written route with someone and a time you are due back.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Slogger on 16:23:24, 05/10/12
    Quote from: robstubbs on 20:01:17, 04/10/12
    Not ridiculous at all.  How many people end up needing rescuing ?  A massively small minority and to suggest everyone else should go prepared as if they would be is just non-sensical, no matter who says so.  Like I said, if you think you're going to need rescuing then you should stay at home.
    Rob.

    But no one said anyone should go prepared as if they they would need rescuing. That was your completely wrong assumption of what I meant.
    All I said was that, in my opinion, ( and it's as good as anyone elses) colourful clothing , and again I never mentioned 'Yellow' or indeed even 'Bright' colours,
    would make you easier find if it came to a search by 'mountain rescue'. I would think that fact is obvious.
    Now how you come to interpret that as me saying, that everyone should go out prepared as if to be rescued, is interesting to say the least. Perhaps you should read posts properly, before making comments verging on the personal.
    Do you carry a mobile phone in your sack when out Fell walking? Just about everyone does these days, and why is that I wonder. A big part of the answer to that, is so they can contact mountain rescue if the need arises. Does that mean that everyone setting out with a mobile in their sack is going out prepared as if they would need rescuing. No, of course they aren't.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Ridge Walker on 17:21:38, 05/10/12
    Quote from: Slogger on 17:36:45, 04/10/12
    What a ridiculous thing to say.
    So you are arguing that wearing clothing in colours that stand out from the surrounding is wrong, and anyone that does is setting out thinking about being rescued. (Doh!)
    I suggest to you that it is you that is in the wrong frame of mind, before and after you start.

    To add, see under clothing. That will do for me, now argue against that.
    http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice (http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice)

    Lighten up mate.  ;)
     
    The link to the advice, is mainly aimed at newbies venturing into the hills for the first time. The modern designs and colours now  have nothing to do with saftey on the hill, but just to make you look good.   
    The point being made is you should pay more attention to planning your walk having all the correct gear ect. Last thing to worry about is the colour of the cothing you wear. :)
     
    The early victorian pioneers manage ok !   
     

    Below, a classic pic of the the greatest Fell waker of them all. AW   O0
                                                   
     
     
     
    (http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee430/azz95/wainwright-hs2.jpg)
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Slogger on 17:37:48, 05/10/12
    Who's getting heavy? All I did was express my opinion and someone responded after taking it out of context.
    For your info I have been climbing, mountaineering in Uk, Nepal, Euro Alps and Canadian Rocky Mountains for many years, and fell walking and running for 55 years.
    I take part in high mileage ultras, moving over mixed terrain and right through the nightime hours, to list just some of my ourdoor activities.
    I don't think I need to be told how to go about my outdoor activities or that my opinions are wrong by someone who only less than four years ago admitted that he didn't have much experience and asked for advice on another forum.
    Oh and by the way, all my fell walking clothing is not bright or colourful, I have all sorts including black and grey, but idf you want to look good in a photo it has to be red. But then again that is just MY opinion.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: AndrewLeary on 17:47:35, 05/10/12
    I take a mobile with me, so the tele-sales people can still get in touch..... :D


    And yes it has happened, just as I got to the top of Barrow I got a call from BG  >:(


    One thing though - there is no guarantee of a signal - there is none in the Eskdale valley area.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: yeti on 18:14:10, 05/10/12
    Quote from: Slogger on 17:37:48, 05/10/12
    but if you want to look good in a photo it has to be red. But then again that is just MY opinion.
    Blue surely? :D ;D :P
     
    p.s. I'm a fan of grey and black usually as they don't attract the midges as much O0 .
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Ridge Walker on 18:52:57, 05/10/12
    Quote from: yeti on 18:14:10, 05/10/12
    Blue surely? :D ;D :P
     
    p.s. I'm a fan of grey and black usually as they don't attract the midges as much O0 .

     O0    ;D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: yeti on 18:58:01, 05/10/12
    Quote from: Slogger on 17:37:48, 05/10/12
    Who's getting heavy? All I did was express my opinion and someone responded after taking it out of context.
    For your info I have been climbing, mountaineering in Uk, Nepal, Euro Alps and Canadian Rocky Mountains for many years, and fell walking and running for 55 years.
    I take part in high mileage ultras, moving over mixed terrain and right through the nightime hours, to list just some of my ourdoor activities.
    I don't think I need to be told how to go about my outdoor activities or that my opinions are wrong by someone who only less than four years ago admitted that he didn't have much experience and asked for advice on another forum.
    Oh and by the way, all my fell walking clothing is not bright or colourful, I have all sorts including black and grey, but idf you want to look good in a photo it has to be red. But then again that is just MY opinion.
    I don't think anyone is questioning any of your past experiences or indeed your capabilites O0 . I think things are misread or taken out of context occasionally thats all ;) .
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Slogger on 20:03:46, 05/10/12
    Quote from: yeti on 18:58:01, 05/10/12
    I don't think anyone is questioning any of your past experiences or indeed your capabilites O0 . I think things are misread or taken out of context occasionally thats all ;) .

    Yes but there is no need to directly criticise someones post containing their opinion.
    Hopefully those concerned will one day learn to respect others opinion even if it does conflict with theirs.
    However this is going nowhere so there will be no further comment from me, except to say to everyone, enjoy your walking and stay safe out there.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: footix2 on 20:05:45, 05/10/12
    Crikey.... it's just a coat. :D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: yeti on 20:20:31, 05/10/12
    Quote from: footix2 on 20:05:45, 05/10/12
    Crikey.... it's just a coat. :D
    A blue coat ::) :P ;D
    Quote from: Slogger on 20:03:46, 05/10/12
    enjoy your walking and stay safe out there.
    Indeed O0
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Bill T on 21:09:44, 05/10/12
    I wear black.  If this results in death so be it.  If I were wearing orange or whatever I would prefer not to be found.


    I can remember being at Lllanrwst many many years ago and the instructor telling us there was no street cred on the hill.  We soon put him right on that one.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Glyno on 21:35:54, 05/10/12
    wow - hardcore or what?
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Cogstar on 21:49:34, 05/10/12
    Right that's decided I'm only wearing a ninja costume from now on.. O0
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: yeti on 21:53:38, 05/10/12
    Quote from: Cogstar on 21:49:34, 05/10/12
    Right that's decided I'm only wearing a ninja costume from now on.. O0
    A gore-tex ninja costume you mean? ::) :P ;D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: iiswoz on 01:19:48, 06/10/12
    Ninja's like to wear blue tops, jackets, with grey, black pants round ere.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: TheGUYuk on 01:59:45, 06/10/12
    You know I only thought I would  post a link to Mountain Rescue advice to help ::) :D :D ;D ;D :o
    I did not know it would start a war  ;) :D ;D :D :( ??? ::) :-[ :-X
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Ridge on 08:19:13, 06/10/12
    I've obviously not put enough thought in to the sartorial elegance of my walking outfits. The colour just depends on what I happen to have on for the weather, or what layer is on show.
     
    Cold & wet = red & black
    Cold & dry = blue & red
    Cool & wet = red & black
    Cool & dry = blue & grey
    Warm & wet = black
    Warm & dry = blue
    Hot & wet = black
    Hot & dry = blue & red & green
     
    Like most people I guess the colours have ended up accidental as I have bought things that suit what I want and what I can afford.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: robstubbs on 09:57:33, 06/10/12
    Quote from: Slogger on 20:03:46, 05/10/12
    Yes but there is no need to directly criticise someones post containing their opinion.
    Hopefully those concerned will one day learn to respect others opinion even if it does conflict with theirs.
    However this is going nowhere so there will be no further comment from me, except to say to everyone, enjoy your walking and stay safe out there.
    Hey, give and take mate.  You seem happy to call others opinions ridiculous so don't be surprised if it bounces back.  I'll admit I was certainly being slightly facetious at times, but my point stands, you do not need bright clothes to go out walking and it doesn't make you safer.


    Rob.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: TheGUYuk on 10:27:14, 06/10/12
    Quote from: Cogstar on 21:49:34, 05/10/12
    Right that's decided I'm only wearing a ninja costume from now on.. O0

    Cannot wait for you to post the photos of you at the Trig Points Paul :D ;) ;D 8) O0
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: BorderCollie on 11:33:49, 06/10/12
    The farmer in the cow video said not to wear bright clothes to be safe from cows  8) Seems like we are in a difficult place.
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: TheGUYuk on 13:56:56, 06/10/12
    Quote from: Cogstar on 21:49:34, 05/10/12
    Right that's decided I'm only wearing a ninja costume from now on.. O0

    Here you go Coggy Mate O0
    This Ninja suit is made in a time-honoured manner. It is used by students and instructors world wide. The top is a customary wrap over incorporating secret pocket. The pants have calf ties and traditional ties to the waist. The outfit is complete with inner and outer hood, gauntlets, hand cover gloves and sash. Made from 100% cotton. Excellent for the traditional Ninjitsu practitioner and can even be used as a Ninja costume for those fancy dress parties.
    Just wash it with Nikwax it will be right mate :) ;) :D ;D O0
    http://www.blitzsport.com/Adult-Ninja-Suit (http://www.blitzsport.com/Adult-Ninja-Suit)
     
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: iiswoz on 12:38:11, 08/10/12
    Ninja's are overated anyway. Sneaking around in the dead of night looking to murder someone.
     Me, well i fancy myself as a samurai ! You know, all  honorable like. Might even buy myself a walking pole and position it like a Catana :D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: April on 12:57:56, 08/10/12
    Perhaps the bloke who walks around naked and keeps getting arrested and jailed is simply confused or unsure what colour to wear?!! ;)
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: yeti on 13:05:24, 08/10/12
    Quote from: April on 12:57:56, 08/10/12
    Perhaps the bloke who walks around naked and keeps getting arrested and jailed is simply confused or unsure what colour to wear?!! ;)
    I suppose its waterproof and very breathable :D
    Title: Re: Mountain Rescue Mountain Advice
    Post by: Wurz on 17:37:31, 08/10/12
    Quote from: angry climber on 23:11:24, 04/10/12

    Why not. If you hire any person to do a job for you and he turns up looking like last weeks washing then you are going to think that his work is like his attire, sloppy. If you present yourself well then you talk confidently and well spoken it makes you seem more professional. You might be [censored] at guiding but you look the part. You have to remember first impressions last. Most people will have never met you until you introduce yourself. If you look smart and confident then you settle the client as well. If you look sloppy and ill prepared you will worry the client. Its still basic Customer service whether you are a guide or a receptionist at a company desk. You are the first face of the business.   


    Sorry, been away.  You didn't say how he was attired simply referred to the colour.  FWIW I think the majority of guides that I've been lucky enough to spend time with have been quite brightly dressed.  But all that they really need to show competence for me is a little badge not matching salopettes and gilet.  (http://www.patagonianguides.com/imagenes/logoUIAGM-ENGLISH.png)