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Lake District Place Pronunciations
« on: 10:14:56, 08/12/17 »
I am aware that some place names in the Lake District are not how you would normally say them...
For example: Torpenhow north of Keswick is actually pronounced 'Tra-Pen-ah'


There were a few places in the Lakes that I have no idea how they are suppose to sound and have heard different things about the place.


1. Great Calva - is it ' Carv-er' or 'Cal-va'
2. Whorneyside Force - is it 'Whore-knee-side Force' or something else?!


Anyone else have any names?
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #1 on: 11:16:39, 08/12/17 »
1. Great Calva - is it ' Carv-er' or 'Cal-va'

I have always had the same question about it, I don't know how it should be pronounced  :-\

2. Whorneyside Force - is it 'Whore-knee-side Force' or something else?!

I would say Whore-knee-side too but I may not be right.

I know the locals pronounce Binsey - Binsa

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Skiddaw - Skidda

I also heard the ladies from Ireby who get on the Caldbeck Rambler pronouncing Braithwaite as "Brethet" a few months ago  :)

I want to know how Stybarrow Dodd is pronounced. Is it Stee-barrow or Stigh-barrow?

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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #2 on: 11:28:48, 08/12/17 »
Ive always said 'Stigh-Barrow' for Stybarrow Dodd. Never heard of any other way to say it!
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #3 on: 11:58:40, 08/12/17 »

Another vote for Sty (like a pigs house) barrow

Souther Fell is Sue-ter Fell
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #4 on: 12:22:32, 08/12/17 »

Big question is Scafell Pike.


I believe that Scaw-fell is the true pronunciation
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #5 on: 13:18:06, 08/12/17 »
Yep, I believe it's Scaw or score - fell.

Froswick = Frozzick

and Keswick = Kezzick of course.

On the subject of 'zick's, theres a farm near Keswick with the unusual name of Uzzicar, I wondered if this was originally Ull's Wick ?
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #6 on: 14:07:39, 08/12/17 »
Ive always said 'Stigh-Barrow' for Stybarrow Dodd. Never heard of any other way to say it!

I don't think I've ever heard anyone pronouncing Stybarrow before.

What made me think it might be "stee" is the pronunciation of Catstycam which is cat-stee-cam?

Another one - Bakestall. I have heard a few versions "back-is-tall" and "bake-es-tall" Not sure which one is right?
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #7 on: 14:45:40, 08/12/17 »
I've wondered about Causey Pike since I mentioned it to a fellow walker, who asked where I'd started out from. I pronounced it "Cause-y" (as in "a good cause") and he grimaced as I said it.


This made me think I'd goofed and maybe it should sound like "house-y" or "cow-zy"... Or even something else. I've looked online in the past but not found any guidance.

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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #8 on: 15:15:40, 08/12/17 »
Cause-y Pike for me too  :-\ I have never heard it pronounced any other way.
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #9 on: 15:21:39, 08/12/17 »
Cause-y Pike for me too  :-\ I have never heard it pronounced any other way.


Thanks, April - I'll stick with that. I don't think I've ever heard it pronounced to be honest.


I guess he must have been grimacing at me for some other reason...


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« Reply #10 on: 15:28:37, 08/12/17 »
Another one - Bakestall. I have heard a few versions "back-is-tall" and "bake-es-tall" Not sure which one is right?
I'm doing that one wrong then. I've never heard it so knew I was probably incorrect by going for Bake-stall in the hope of being able to buy a bun at the top.
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« Reply #11 on: 16:01:29, 08/12/17 »
I've never heard it so knew I was probably incorrect by going for Bake-stall in the hope of being able to buy a bun at the top.

It could be correct  :-\

I have decided to give up saying these names out loud now. I am just going to point at the map instead  ;)
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #12 on: 18:31:41, 08/12/17 »
Big question is Scafell Pike. I believe that Scaw-fell is the true pronunciation

Locally, I've always heard it pronounced skaw (rhymes with score). The main hill is two distinct words - Skaw Fell - but the two syllables are partially elided for its neighbor  - Skawf'ul

Historically, the OS variously recorded the 'main' hill as Scaw Fell (two words with a 'w') and the adjoining tops as the Pikes of Sca Fell.
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Re: Lake District Place Pronunciations
« Reply #13 on: 18:50:56, 08/12/17 »
What about Loughrigg fell?  I read/hear (in my head)/say Luffrigg.  However, I've heard it pronnounced Loch-rigg (like you'd say a Scottish loch)  :-\
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« Reply #14 on: 19:46:43, 08/12/17 »
The other problem I have is do I sound pretentious if I slip in to Cumbrian pronunciation when I'm clearly not a local.
I know that Skid-ore is Skidder but I would never say it. In the same way I wouldn't say that April is from nyCAssle.
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