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Title: A sandwich by any other name....
Post by: Islandplodder on 15:02:33, 23/01/19

A few of us were sitting on a hill eating our sandwiches and started discussing what we called our picnic.
The Scots among us said "piece".  A couple called it 'bait' and I thought I remembered 'snap' from my youth (in Yorkshire).  Someone said they had heard 'pack up'.
A picnic somehow involves a rug, and complicated cooking packed up in a hamper.  We were talking about the thing you take for a walk.
Any more regional variations?



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Post by: ninthace on 16:22:55, 23/01/19
I have heard bait box and butty box.  I call it luncheon.
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Post by: GnP on 16:41:31, 23/01/19
I have always called it lunch, even though for me it is spread (pardon the pun) out, & often eaten throughout the day.. :P
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Post by: Owen on 16:43:15, 23/01/19
Porky roundaboy tuck.
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Post by: jimbob on 16:46:33, 23/01/19
+1 for bait,  carried ,of course, in a bait box which went into the bait bag.(North Northumberland )
Hereabouts in Lincolnshire I have heard it called a pack-up.
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Post by: adalard on 18:33:46, 23/01/19
I think we usually just say butties... As in, "Shall we save the butties 'til we get to those rocks over there?" or the like.
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Post by: vghikers on 19:57:15, 23/01/19
In the Potteries of Stoke-on-Trent, sandwiches were often called 'pieces', as in 'a piece of jam' = a jam butty.
A common general term for your packed lunch, sandwiches or otherwise, was your 'snapping'.
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Post by: Innominate Man on 20:09:10, 23/01/19
I have a 'leg' of the family from South Yorkshire and as well as snap, I've heard 'jock' used.
I think the miners used to take a jock tin darn pit !


The term 'pack up' is always used by Mrs I. She is from a more urban area of West Yorkshire (  :knuppel2:  ) and it is purely a term for snap and not a full blown picnic.
On the other hand I'm from very West Yorkshire (i.e. not central West Yorkshire - there is a difference): Calderdale - and we were so poor, we didn't have any snap/jock/shim shams/pack up/luncheon/bait or piece   ;D  Luxury !

 
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Post by: Pitboot on 20:54:54, 23/01/19
Scran. Don't know if the Bootnecks claim that one but in my service years from 1973 this is the term we used for a meal or snack taken in the field. You don't take a hamper in a tank or helicopter, well officers might but not us troopers.
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Post by: Pitboot on 20:56:34, 23/01/19
I have a 'leg' of the family from South Yorkshire and as well as snap, I've heard 'jock' used.
I think the miners used to take a jock tin darn pit !


The term 'pack up' is always used by Mrs I. She is from a more urban area of West Yorkshire (  :knuppel2:  ) and it is purely a term for snap and not a full blown picnic.
On the other hand I'm from very West Yorkshire (i.e. not central West Yorkshire - there is a difference): Calderdale - and we were so poor, we didn't have any snap/jock/shim shams/pack up/luncheon/bait or piece   ;D  Luxury !




We got a piece of stale bread, with some dripping, if we were lucky! :'(

 
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Post by: Ridge on 21:03:23, 23/01/19
Originally from South Yorkshire I recognise snap and pack-up but have never heard jock.
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Post by: jimbob on 21:09:19, 23/01/19
Dropping!  Dripping! You from the landed classes are you. Most we got was a look at the lard and a lick of the crust.
I had forgotten about scran.

Turns out Snap is named after the tins that people (especially pitman) used to keep their food clean. They had snap on lids.
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Post by: rural roamer on 08:14:49, 24/01/19
Must either be boring or posh in Suffolk then. We just call them sandwiches and picnic. Have heard of “pack-up” though, the others are new to me, you learn something every day.  8)
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Post by: phil1960 on 09:00:44, 24/01/19
It’s sandwiches or picnic in South Wales too, I mean we’re sat on a piece of thin foam on a mountainside rock somewhere, not flicking up the coat tails at a posh restaurant lol. I have heard the term ‘nose bag’ before now but I think that harks back to the early 19th century in Wales.
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Post by: sussamb on 09:10:05, 24/01/19
Nose bag often used in the army for a bagged meal  O0
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Post by: phil1960 on 09:36:55, 24/01/19
Nose bag often used in the army for a bagged meal  O0
Nice one Jon I knew I hadn’t imagined that one  ;)
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Post by: Ridge on 10:07:46, 24/01/19
Nose bag presumably originally from horses.
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Post by: sussamb on 10:11:19, 24/01/19
Nice one Jon I knew I hadn’t imagined that one  ;)


 O0
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Post by: fernman on 12:38:43, 24/01/19
And now for something different:
For me it is always "lunch", irrespective of whether it's a sandwich or two during a walk or at home, or simply a bag of crisps and a biscuit, or something in a pub, or an instant soup and other bits if I'm carrying a stove.
(I have a nasty feeling what you're all going to say now  :-[ )
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Post by: phil1960 on 12:45:39, 24/01/19
And now for something different:
For me it is always "lunch", irrespective of whether it's a sandwich or two during a walk or at home, or simply a bag of crisps and a biscuit, or something in a pub, or an instant soup and other bits if I'm carrying a stove.
(I have a nasty feeling what you're all going to say now  :-[ )
Nothing wrong with lunch, I have it myself quite often, just not on a mountain  ;D
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Post by: jontea on 13:02:24, 24/01/19
I use the term ‘Pack Up’ and I remember another northern word ‘Grub’  :)  ie
When lunch is ready “Grub up”
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Post by: phil1960 on 14:09:23, 24/01/19
John you are so common, just like me  ;D
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Post by: ninthace on 15:31:02, 24/01/19
At Ninthace Towers we say "à table" or "c'est servi".


As for nose bags - the loadmaster used to hand out white cardboard boxes if the plane did not have a galley.


There was the time as cadets we had to go out and rough it in the field for a few days while going through Cranwell.  Fortunately, it was the day after the Summer Ball so I arranged for a 4 tonner to back up to the mess and take away the leftovers.  The Directing Staff were not too happy when they found we were dining on smoked salmon and the like in the field.  They said there was supposed to be a degree of hardship involved - I pointed out that we had only managed to relieve the mess of Italian wine and that was hardship enough!
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Post by: rambling oldie on 16:43:29, 24/01/19
I like the dwarves name for their travelling food “cram”  
Sorry, digressing into Tolkein.  
 :)  
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Post by: sussamb on 17:12:23, 24/01/19
As for nose bags - the loadmaster used to hand out white cardboard boxes if the plane did not have a galley.


Typical crabs, ours used to come in brown bags  ;D
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Post by: phil1960 on 17:33:18, 24/01/19
I actually get that one John lol, my dad was in an army football team back in the 50’s and was always coming out with quips about the other services, none complimentary, but I’m sure it was tongue in cheek  ;)
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Post by: sussamb on 18:07:47, 24/01/19
... but I’m sure it was tongue in cheek  ;)
Defo  O0
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Post by: April on 18:38:42, 24/01/19
Same as jimbob, it is Bait for me. Although since I have been influenced by the very sophisticated beefy, I call it Lunch  ;)
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Post by: jontea on 18:45:44, 24/01/19
John you are so common, just like me  ;D
;D ;D O0
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Post by: sparnel on 19:18:41, 24/01/19
In west of Scotland what you would eat up the hill is always called 'your piece'.
And to follow on, one o'clockish is dinner time and six o'clockish is teatime.
Supper B4 going to bed.
I said to a girl in  a cafe once, could I have a piece on ham (bacon sandwich to southeners).
She said is that all I wanted........asked me again.   You've guessed it.....out came a very small square
of gammon.

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Post by: Innominate Man on 22:52:03, 24/01/19
Originally from South Yorkshire I recognise snap and pack-up but have never heard jock.
This might be worth a look (or maybe not .... it's a bit long winded). The item referring to jock is just over half way down the 'page' if you scroll into the area where people respond & put their own recollections.
It was posted by .. anonymous   just after a comment by lucy morton.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northyorkshire/voices2005/glossary/glossary.shtml
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Post by: inthebagbud on 06:01:25, 26/01/19
Baggin is how we used to refer to our packed lunch ,
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Post by: Ridge on 08:55:07, 26/01/19
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northyorkshire/voices2005/glossary/glossary.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/northyorkshire/voices2005/glossary/glossary.shtml)
Interesting list IM. Some of the words I recognised and some I didn't, but then Yorkshire is a big place. What did surprise me is a number of words which I just thought were English rather than Yorkshire.
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Post by: Islandplodder on 17:52:37, 26/01/19

I've found the replies really interesting.
I enjoyed that link as well.  The thing is, you don't always find out which words are local until you try them on someone else.  I remember giving someone directions to find the flat I was living in at the time and said something like 'turn left down the ginnel' and she was totally flummoxed, I had no idea it wasn't a general term.
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Post by: sunnydale on 21:05:55, 26/01/19
I usually refer to my lunch time sandwiches as 'sarnies'.  My dad used to call his 'pack-up'.
I've heard the term 'grub' but most of the other terms here are new to me! ???


It's funny that when I'm at home, I prepare 'tea' (eaten between 5.30pm-6.00pm)...but if I fancy going out to eat, I say 'Let's go out for an evening meal', instead of 'Let's go out for tea'! :D
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Post by: Ridge on 23:52:31, 26/01/19
I've heard the term 'grub' but most of the other terms here are new to me! ???
Grub is one of the words which I have only just discovered isn't common across the country.
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Post by: Innominate Man on 00:03:46, 31/01/19
Interesting list IM. Some of the words I recognised and some I didn't, but then Yorkshire is a big place. What did surprise me is a number of words which I just thought were English rather than Yorkshire.
My branch of the family who used jock were from a small town/village which was a satellite to Barnsley. My Grandma spoke in a similar way (but still a heavier accent) as Charlie Williams.

.....It's funny that when I'm at home, I prepare 'tea' (eaten between 5.30pm-6.00pm)...but if I fancy going out to eat, I say 'Let's go out for an evening meal', instead of 'Let's go out for tea'! :D
We've always said 'tea' and our son, who now lives below Watford Gap, will refer to going out for dinner, despite having had tea for umpteen years with us !
Dinner, to me is what you have mid-day'ish.
What a great language we've got - the central W.Yorks will say 'nooo' with a drawled out pronunciation of the vowel - which is a flat sound compared to friends in Castleford who would always say no with the 'o' as if it were 'OW' more like Nessa's (Ruth Jones) favourite word  :-\