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Now there will always be people who, like with the sat nav think because there is a path shown they can plough on regardless, like the recent discussion about the steep path off Barf highlights. That’s how lorry’s get stuck under bridges and walkers fall off mountains.

But I like to think none of us here are in that category


Sorry but you're wrong there   :-[
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Gear / Re: Paramo windproofs.
« Last post by pauldawes on Today at 22:06:30 »
Same as kb…got a couple of Fuera windproofs, and not had problem described.
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General Walking Discussion / Re: Spring lambs
« Last post by Skip on Today at 21:57:09 »
Anybody seen any?

Yup, the fields are full of 'em here in Warks. They look delicious
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That’s interesting Eylet and I certainly admire your dedication.  I’m assuming  though that whilst  footpaths (green dashed) are public rights of way and access to them is legally enforceable, paths (black dashed) don’t enjoy that right? Or does the fact that they appear on an OS map make a difference as opposed to being on Open Street map for instance?  
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Glad you had a night out I really enjoyed  the only time I walked down Wythburn but it was a lovely day.

We've had four seasons in one day down here today but weather looks slightly better for the week-end but I'm going camping whatever as cabin fever is creeping in.  ;D


Yes - cabin fever is what drove me out onto the hills despite an iffy forecast, just had to get out. The Wythburn valley would be lovely in dry weather, but the whole place was absolutely saturated., and I was lucky to find a dry pitch.
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Tough walk up High Raise following the ridge from Rydal, some very heavy rain with hard bits in it at times. Decided to retreat down the Wyth Byrn valley, found a surprisingly dry pitch amongst all the bog. And I got surprisingly close to a small herd of red deer hinds. Glad that I retreated as it absolutely poured this morning, a very wet walk out. I'll save the bogfest over Ullscarf, High Tove etc for drier weather!


Glad you had a night out I really enjoyed  the only time I walked down Wythburn but it was a lovely day.

We've had four seasons in one day down here today but weather looks slightly better for the week-end but I'm going camping whatever as cabin fever is creeping in.  ;D
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I think Ordnance Survey have given up on updating their maps with new footpaths. Possibly because there are some legal/official restrictions on what can be called/designated a ‘footpath’, possibly because they’ve made a decision not to clutter their maps with new stuff.

OS will add a new unmade path (a black dashed path on OS 25k mapping) in undeveloped land if a robust case is made to them that a) it is in the public interest to add the path and b) there is good evidence that the path exists on the ground. 
 
The PI test has the best chance of being accepted if the path joins parts of the PROW network and goes somewhere specific e.g. a trig point, a historical feature etc. i.e. the reason the path has developed. Evidence of there being a visible path on the ground can be as simple as a screenshot of satellite imaging annotated to clearly show the line of the path along with photos taken along the route (A GPX track is also helpful.) 

Here are a few examples:
 
A few years ago, I had a dialog with OS about the waymarked and signposted YDNP/NT permissive path that traverses Addlebrough in the Yorkshire Dales, which was unmapped. Given the rationale and underpinning evidence I supplied, they added it. Not quickly, but they did add it. 
 
Another example is in Wharfedale and is the black dashed path leading from Mossdale  SE 0209 7011 up to Sandy Gate SE 0297 7120, which was also added recently following my request. The line of the bridleway shown may be the legal right of way, but there is no path on the ground and the dashed path shows the route as waymarked by YDNP and is clearly visible. 
 
OS also added a missing track and footbridge, and added a new wood including its fire break and added its name (Millennium Woods) near Lauder in the Scottish Borders, again after making the case that these features should be mapped.   
 
I hope I have made the case with the above examples (there are more) that OS can and do update their 1-25 and 1-50k maps with unmade paths in undeveloped land - it is up to us to make the case for adding them and provide them with the evidence. 
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General Walking Discussion / Re: Spring lambs
« Last post by ninthace on Today at 19:12:04 »
Loads - sometimes they start in October, but not this year.  Our fields are full of them at present.  I hope they did not get too cold in the snow today.
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Gear / Re: Paramo windproofs.
« Last post by Percy on Today at 18:50:57 »
If your after one of the best allround windproof, try looking at the RAB Borealis jacket, better than the Paramos.
Its made of a very stretchy fabric, highly breathable and very windproof, and i was lucky enough to pick one up some time ago, for well below list price.

Very windproof, and beautifully made, with a simply stunning hood.
I think you’d fail a Turing Test.
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Welcome / Re: Hi from the New Forest
« Last post by richardh1905 on Today at 18:43:33 »
Welcome to the forum from South Cumbria.  O0
Can't help you with your question I'm afraid, don't know the area.
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