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Alan Kilroy

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Re: Windshirt recommendations please
« Reply #30 on: 17:14:58, 10/10/17 »
So.....I got a Buffalo Windshirt yesterday in the post, great bit of kit, light as a feather etc..... very happy.
Ordered, straight away a matching DP hood, in the post........Windshirt / DP hood, will they work OK together? I assume they will. Anyone use this combo?


I'm aware you can order an unlined hood aswell but went for the lined.
Maybe a Mountain Shirt down the line.... :o

Dyffryn Ardudwy

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« Reply #31 on: 22:20:47, 10/10/17 »
Buffalo Windshirt every time.



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« Reply #32 on: 20:13:03, 11/10/17 »
Despite the OP having sorted himself with a buffalo, I'll just say - for latecomers / future readers - that I have a Arcteryx Squamish windshirt, which  i flipping love ..... but I'm really rather terrified of going anywhere near the tiniest of bushes with it as it feels not the sturdiest thing ever.....even though I suspect it's tougher than I give it credit. I'd just prefer someone else tried it out with their own.


scrumples down to an apple sized ball, is incredibly effective, and weighs absolutely nothing. Didn't cost me much either (sale+voucher) and is about the same price RRP as a buffalo


Worth a look, certainly

Dyffryn Ardudwy

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« Reply #33 on: 10:10:02, 12/10/17 »
The thing that most impresses me about Pertex, is how resilient it is, to general wear and tare.
You have to be pretty brutal in the treatment of your Buffalo Windshirt, to incur any damage to the Pertex, and its only after many years of use, when the Pertex has discoloured and experienced significant amounts of body abrasion, that there is any potential for rips or tares to occur.

Then there is the different weave thicknesses of Pertex, Pertex 5 and 6.

I am still amazed at how quickly Pertex will dry out, in the right weather conditions, and depending on the outside temperature, it also offers great protection when wet.

I was also surprised to see that the current Buffalo Windshirt, retails for a healthy 87, that's  a huge mark up on what i remember paying, but there are not that many items of clothing designed back in the early 1980s, that are still selling sufficiently well, to remain on a manufacturers list.

The Buffalo now has quite a few competitors on the market, claiming to be more wind resistant, or made from a more technically advanced material,  but i still recon the Buffalo Windshirt is the one to get,  and ive yet to see any bit of walking clothing that dries as fast, and offers the best wind protection as does Pertex.

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« Reply #34 on: 10:36:09, 12/10/17 »
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how resilient it is, to general wear and tare

Why would the unladen weight of the shirt be resilient? It is what it is and should never change?

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experienced significant amounts of body abrasion

Just how abrasive is your body? Or is it the gentle rubbing of a Thommen Altimeter that you confuse for body abrasion?

Go on, let us into the secret, just how many groats did it cost years ago when you were out walking/running/competing.

As stated by others there are many competitors out there, all with decent reviews. To be so hung up by one make is a sign of the mind closing in and refusing to accept new, and potentially better, experiences, whilst having the chance to learn from and reminisce on the poorer experiences.

Continuous repetition does not lead to enhanced third party confidence.
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Dyffryn Ardudwy

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« Reply #35 on: 10:50:41, 12/10/17 »
I remember buying my original Windshirt in Crickhowell Adventure gear, in their Crickhowell branch.
I forget what it cost me, but a lot less than 34, because i remember paying that for a brand new pair of Berghaus Goretex over trousers in the same shop, in roughly 1983 or 84.

The trousers have been used twice, as their so delicate to remove, and you know the Goretex membrane will not take any punishment, one of those rash purchases, that seemed a good idea at the time, and looking back at it now, 34 seems a bargain, but it was a daft asking price in the early 1980s.

To put that into perspective, the Trango Extrem top of the range GoreTex jacket, cost 167, a significant amount of money back in the early 1980s, when standard Berghaus GoreTex jackets were around the 60 mark.

That Windshirt, has been used regularly, since day of purchase, numerous Challenge walks, several 3000 attempts, and more walks i can remember, its almost white in colour, due to constant  wear and useage, and constantly used, unlike lots of kit ive wasted money on, its one of the best bit of clothing ive bought.

All the zips are in perfect condition, and only one small tear, which happened in the washing machine, getting tangled up with another item of clothing, but the damage is very slight.


I cannot recommend them highly enough, and i suppose in todays money, 87 seems reasonable money for something that should last many years.
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« Reply #36 on: 12:00:39, 12/10/17 »
Just how abrasive is your body? Or is it the gentle rubbing of a Thommen Altimeter that you confuse for body abrasion?


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Mel

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« Reply #37 on: 13:20:37, 12/10/17 »
Have to confess (as the actual Original Poster of this topic  ;)  ) I bought neither a Paramo or Buffalo windshirt.  After copping a feel of them both in the shop I decided they were far too thick for what I was looking for.  Great quality, both of them, yes.  But not for me.  I ended up with a Ronhill windjacket, bought from a running store.  25 and does EXACTLY what I want it to do.  My only gripe is that, because it's aimed at runners, it's fluorescent blue (which clashes with my flourescent pink waterproof)  :D


I do wonder what the point of buying something is if you're terrified of actually wearing it in case it gets damaged though  :-\


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« Reply #38 on: 16:09:46, 12/10/17 »
.After copping a feel of them both in the shop I decided they were far too thick for what I was looking for.  Great quality, both of them, yes.


I do wonder what the point of buying something is if you're terrified of actually wearing it in case it gets damaged though  :-\
Thickness and longevity for me is not necessarily quality also. Quality of the experience is more important


Your bit about terrified is also where I'm at.
I pick a specification , which may include abstract criteria such as peace of mind and yes, fashion, and usually choose the cheapest that match it. Not sure if the Alpkit 32 item is functionally the same, seems to be? But it's what I generally wear, either that or a 16 Quechua one.
Which ever you choose though, a windproof that packs to an orange size and weighs next to nothing is a great thing to have.

Edit: just looking at the Buffalo, it wouldn't meet my criteria anyhow. It seems a part zip only, bit inflexible for me for temperature regulation.
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Dyffryn Ardudwy

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« Reply #39 on: 16:27:14, 12/10/17 »
Dear Mel

Ive bought a fair amount of kit over the decades, and probably getting carried away when genuine bargains are up for grabs, usually in the sales.
The Berghaus over trousers seemed like a good idea at the time, but i remember wearing them after a very wet and muddy ascent of Pen Y Fan from Cwm Gwdi.
Getting back to my Ford Escort, i could see the inner Goretex membrane was covered in muck, and was not protected by any other membrane, it was obvious they would not stand up to any serious use.

Most quality over trousers now days, have a separate lining to protect the GoreTex membrane, early Berghaus over trousers from the 1980s, did not appear to have a protective lining, so there was nothing to really protect the Goretex from damage.

I was not terrified to wear them, but you simply knew that the removal of muddy boots, and other footwear, was going to damage them sooner than later, and the leg zips strangely did not travel very far up the leg, making their removal a bit tricky.

My Montane over trousers, have a zip that travels almost the entire length of the leg, and  dead easy to remove.

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« Reply #40 on: 16:53:57, 12/10/17 »
My Montane over trousers, have a zip that travels almost the entire length of the leg, and  dead easy to remove.

So too do the Berghaus Deluge overtrousers that are fairly popular amongst the forum  O0
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Mel

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« Reply #41 on: 19:05:06, 12/10/17 »
Jethro10 - yes, this Ronhill windshirt also scrunches down into a tiny ball, is lightweight and full zip, couple of pockets and (importantly for me) no hood!  I did look at Alpkit ones after someone recommended them earlier in this topic but I really do need to try them on and have a look-see at the item in real life (can't be arsed with all the posting returns malarkey) and as far as I can tell Alpkit stuff isn't sold in shops?


DA - clothing or equipment which is a "bargain" isn't really a bargain if you daren't wear it for fear of it failing.  As for getting a bit of mud on stuff, a damp sponge usually does the trick for getting rid of that.  If you've not worn these items for fear of them failing, I'm not surprised they've lasted many years, so in that respect, they are indeed a bargain I suppose  :-\


(why we are discussing bargains and waterproof trousers on a topic about windshirts is beyond me though  ;D  )

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« Reply #42 on: 21:25:48, 12/10/17 »
Jethro10 -  (can't be arsed with all the posting returns malarkey) and as far as I can tell Alpkit stuff isn't sold in shops?
Mostly mail order. They now have 3 shops I think, and luckily the one in Ambleside is fairly close for me (the old Marmot shop)
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Alan Kilroy

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Re: Windshirt recommendations please
« Reply #43 on: 17:30:48, 13/10/17 »
So.....I got a Buffalo Windshirt yesterday in the post, great bit of kit, light as a feather etc..... very happy.
Ordered, straight away a matching DP hood, in the post........Windshirt / DP hood, will they work OK together? I assume they will. Anyone use this combo?


I'm aware you can order an unlined hood aswell but went for the lined.
Maybe a Mountain Shirt down the line.... :o


Oh.......after all that  :-\ :-\ .......my DP hood arrived today, not that I'll be needing it with the current hot weather, but all set for the winter now I reckon. Nice n fluffy on the inside and great coverage on the face if needed.




Roll on Monday's Storm  :D

Alan Kilroy

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« Reply #44 on: 18:51:57, 15/10/17 »
Wore my Buffalo Windshirt today on a hike up to Lugnaquilla in Co Wicklow @925m.
Driving rain with strong winds (about 50mtrs viz). It performed very well. I put the hood on aswell, thank God I bought that. It went on over my Beanie and was needed. Complete with velcro on front face cover.


As expected, with the slightest let up in the rain, parts of the sleeve were bone dry in minutes. Completely dry as we descended out of the filth.