Author Topic: How Not to Wild Camp  (Read 1159 times)

ninthace

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #15 on: 10:51:13, 26/08/17 »
Sadly we have imported other nations dross into this country courtesy of Blair opening the borders to all and sundry.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_for_workers_in_the_European_Union


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maastricht_Treaty


The free movement of workers within the EU started under the Treaty of Rome and was clarified to include residence under the Treaty of Maastricht so that would be your man Heath and Baroness Thatcher that you should rant at.


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Mel

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #16 on: 11:21:09, 26/08/17 »
Dare i say it, but the people who caused this mess, are not true walkers.


Don't faint but, I agree.


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With that in mind, it sounds more like "party animals" recreating their own private festival for a night or two to get their money's worth out of their camping gear and then simply abandon it because they've all got monstrous hangovers the next day and can't face packing up and clearing up....it's just easier to leave it there "for someone else".


I'd be inclined to think that people living off the land (regardless of race, religion or political belief) ...whilst they may leave litter, etc. they would take their tents and such like, simply because it is their "home" and they'd need it for the next spot they decide to stop at.



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fernman

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #17 on: 12:33:34, 26/08/17 »
I'd be inclined to think that people living off the land (regardless of race, religion or political belief) ...whilst they may leave litter, etc. they would take their tents and such like, simply because it is their "home" and they'd need it for the next spot they decide to stop at.

Not always the case, Mel. From time to time I have come across long-abandoned tents, always of the really cheap sort, hidden away in bits of woodland, where it is quite evident that someone has been living there for a period of time.

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #18 on: 13:24:53, 26/08/17 »
Mentioned on BBC News just now..........wild camping / Lake District..............................including the above picture.  ???

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #19 on: 19:36:00, 26/08/17 »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_for_workers_in_the_European_Union


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maastricht_Treaty


The free movement of workers within the EU started under the Treaty of Rome and was clarified to include residence under the Treaty of Maastricht so that would be your man Heath and Baroness Thatcher that you should rant at.

 I am fully aware of that.A lot of East Europeans were working in the UK in the nineties.In 1947 several thousand former members of the 14th Waffen SS Division (Ukranian) were allowed to settle in the UK,working mainly in the farming and mining industries.This was on an as-needed basis,rather than a free for all that results in the wages and living standards of the indigenous working class population being driven down.

 BTW,just because my views might be a bit distastful to those of a sensitive dispostion it dosen't mean I am a Tory voter or supporter.I was a life long Labour voter until Blair decided to open the flood gates in 2004 (he did have a choice in the matter and could have deferred free movement for several years)I would say my views have more in common with Old Labour voters who feel they have been deserted rather than right wing bigots in the Tory party.

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #20 on: 17:11:22, 27/08/17 »
I think you need to keep politics out of it.
In my experience, it is people doing it, no matter what race, nationality, background, gender, age, a percentage of all those people think its okay to drop litter or to leave stuff behind.
People throw poo bags in hedges, dump their car rubbish in lay-by's, drop fag ends and chewing gum in the street, leave empty bottles on mountain paths etc, they are not all East European, and no I am not 'of a sentimental disposition'. The UK might have been tidier years ago before we created a throw-away society.



willow229

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #21 on: 13:19:25, 29/08/17 »
This mess has not been caused by wild campers.My money would be on East European alcoholics/drug addicts who are too tight to pay for proper accommadation or local yobs out for a **** up.Where I live we have had a quite a few problems with several East European undesirables causing a similar mess on wildlife parks.Before anyone calls me a racist I will point out that I am part East European myself but find the attitude of those who arrived after 2004 to be a disgrace.


I'm not racist but..... ::)
You only need to drive around the country to see how so many people treat this country like a tip with no respect for their environment. I live near a McDonalds and it's a common occurrence that people park up on my road, eat their burger and chips and then just hurl then rubbish out the window. I've had a go at several people doing this over the years and they've always spoken with local accents.
Whether the picture is staged or not, you can but camping eqiupment dirt cheap form Aldi etc. Maybe they all chipped 20 quid each to buy the tent and chairs and just left them. If you've ever been to Glastonbury you'll know how many people go home and leave their cheap tents behind without a second thought.

Penygadair

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #22 on: 14:13:10, 29/08/17 »
I'll confess to enjoying an occasional quarter pounder but McDonalds litter is a nationwide problem, I get their litter chucked out of car windows but the nearest branch is more than 35 miles away.
Worst I've had was a bag thrown from the passenger window of a passing car which landed on my driveway. Disposable nappies -just like Greggs sandwiches - freshly filled.  >:(  And people come to Wales to enjoy the beautiful countryside.

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Re: How Not to Wild Camp
« Reply #23 on: 17:13:29, 08/09/17 »
I agree they're not "true walkers" or backpackers. There are scumbags who turn up and do this stuff but they're usually not proper outdoorspeople.


I've seen them on the Ridgeway - campfire and a tarp. Nothing wrong with that. But the next day the tarp is left, pile of beer cans, litter and so on. Disgusting. But they've driven close by and walked about 10 mins. Likewise you get groups of youths who pretend to their parents that they're going camping but actually just turn up and get wasted on booze and drugs and don't give a **** about how they leave things.


When I lived in London, near a largish, quite nice park. In the summer you'd get a group of maybe 10-20 people go for a picnic - bags and boxes of food, chairs etc, get drunk and lairy and let their dogs bother other people. And at the end of it, literally just walk away - paper plates, half eaten sarnies, cups, bottles, bags and even chairs. It would blow about the park for a month after. Amazing.


99% of people who are there to enjoy the scenery, carry their kit in and out - "true" backpackers if you will - they're not doing this stuff. I've seen walkers chase a windblown sweet wrapper for hundreds of yards just to avoid littering.