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Title: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Deolman on 17:01:43, 01/05/18
Walked the C2C in 2016 when the A1 was being upgraded to motorway standard. The diversion at Catterick  is shown on the Wainwright Society website with a completion date of 30th April 2018 and the Highways Agency report that this final section of the A1 upgrade was completed on the 29th March 2018. Does anyone know if the original C2C footpath across the A1 has been reinstated or does it now follow a different route?
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: bricam2096 on 17:54:18, 01/05/18
Forum member Johhnyp is walking the C2C shortly and posted a similar enquiry, he says he'll be at that bit on May 16th so hopefully he'll let us know after he's passed that bit or finished.

http://www.walkingforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=36286.0
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 23:10:23, 01/05/18
Cant see any updates from the last few days. Will keep my eyes open. Failing that will report what happens when I get there O0
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Deolman on 07:40:32, 02/05/18
Thanks for your replies and look forward to the update. All the best on the C2C johhnyp and trust the weather will be kind to you!
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 20:00:18, 07/05/18
Drove down the A1 last Thursday and it looked like no activity around Thornfield Farm ie the work is done?. Cant see anything online, so I will probably wander down that side of the river Wednesday week. Starting this Wednesday afternoon with a leisurely 6 days to Keld ( I have deliberately planned to only walk from Kirkby Stephen that day so I can spend the afternoon relaxing by the waterfalls rather than rushing past as per the last few years either on PWs or C2Cs - I love Keld). Then four days to RHB including quite a long last one (for me) from the Feversham Arms in Farndale to the Bay Hotel. In the event this is good as I have not had my boots on for 8 months in any capacity so have time to build the legs up. No heroics though; just the standard walk other than maybe cutting the corner via High Raise and down to Measand Beck.
Weather looks ok other than a bit of rain between Borrowdale and Shap (Friday and Saturday)
Five years since my last C2C so looking forward to it :)
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: bricam2096 on 20:22:06, 07/05/18
The journey from the Feversham arms to where it rejoins the C2C path near the Lion In is a killer hill, you will be cursing it. But as you know, once you reach the Lion Inn it's reasonable easy going down to Glaisdale. Oh, and enjoy the hill out of Grosmont  :D :D
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 22:09:14, 07/05/18
Yea; so I am told Brian. Always fancied a wander down Farndale rather than pound out the railway track bed again. Doesn't look too bad on the map ;D. Still; having been reminded of the SWCP on another thread tonight I shall think about some of the climbs between Lulworth and Swanage and hopefully I will be at the Lion before I know it! May cut across country after the hill out of Grosmont in order to get to RHB in reasonable time
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 19:42:12, 09/05/18
Nice 2pm start thanks to the rail strike in Northern rail. Then a sprint through the baltic, soaking summer weather to low [censored] how. Summer is back with a vengeance O0
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 18:44:18, 12/05/18
It has been a fun c2c so far. Dry other than a few hours around Cleator...unusual for me! Very windy yesterday which was an interesting experience. Did Wythburn  (which was great...wet but not badly so) and then up high raise. Today was warm. Saw kidsty pike in sunlight for the first time in 5 trips but did the route via high raise, low raise and down measand end. This was a remarkable high route with great views. Managed to put some variety in it O0
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 13:44:01, 16/05/18
The diversion was not in place this morning. Normal.route used
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Deolman on 16:01:04, 16/05/18
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The diversion was not in place this morning. Normal.route used


Thanks for the update - trust your walk is going well

Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 21:53:17, 16/05/18
Thank you. Plodding on. At ingleby tonight. 2 days to go. Been hard going the last two days from keld. Hot weather and/or dry rutted ground. Glad when it' done now
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Stebee on 07:11:24, 17/05/18
Don’t worry about the trek up from Farndale...it’s finding the place I struggled with in 2010. Didn’t help being in thick mist but I spent an hour looking for the path down from the trail that the guide book said was there. Never found it even on OS when I got home.The signposted road down to the village after the Lion is the safer bet. Nice pub though once I got there - lovely landlady and the best pint of Black Sheep awaits...
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 20:42:18, 19/05/18
I managed to get lost in the Heather in the mist around there in 2012. Featureles in fog...amazing really given its lack of relative remoteness.
Was a nice place. Long hit haul to Rhb yesterday. That Hill is a pig
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 20:42:48, 19/05/18
Hot
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 20:54:27, 19/05/18
Makes the Grosmont Hill feel like an elevator O0
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Deolman on 14:39:07, 22/05/18
Hi johhnyp


Trust your walk went well.  From information I have seen I was given to understand that the route from Nine Standards had been flagged following a fund raising scheme (Raise the Standard) I have just been looking at a video of a chap walking the C2C at the beginning of May 2018 and the route from Nine Standards did'nt seem to be flagged. Could you let me know - is it flagged or are walkers still bog trotting?

Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: sussamb on 14:50:17, 22/05/18
Looking at this guys trip report there seem to be a few flags just last week but mainly still track ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VobS7PjodTw&t=22s
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Deolman on 16:20:26, 22/05/18
Hi Suussamb


Thats the video I was watching which is why I asked for confirmation as I was pretty certain I read that the flagging had been completed but maybe it is another route they did?? I get easily confused! LOL
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 16:42:59, 22/05/18
There is a depression around half a mile south of nine standards where the signpost signals the blue and red routes. It was a wet spot but is now flagged for a few hundred metres. The rest is still au naturelle  It was largely dry however. The odd wet boot cap but that is about it. Driest I have ever seen it in five crossings..
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Deolman on 17:02:39, 22/05/18
I have been looking again on the web. There is a section that crosses the Cumbria/Yorkshire border that has been flagged.  Video of the work can be watched on Youtube https://youtu.be/moHspL05FYM. According to the North Pennines AONB website 392 metres of flagstones were laid.
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 17:45:00, 22/05/18
There is a swanky new border stone there too O0
Also you can instagram pics of the Heather regeneration from a fancy little frame there too ;D
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Deolman on 17:47:55, 22/05/18
I saw a picture of the boundary stone on the video. Just hope it’s a bit drier than the last time I walked it.
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: sussamb on 18:12:10, 22/05/18
Hi Suussamb


Thats the video I was watching which is why I asked for confirmation as I was pretty certain I read that the flagging had been completed but maybe it is another route they did?? I get easily confused! LOL

Well there are at least three C2C routes across nine standards so confusion is easy  ;)
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 13:27:07, 23/05/18
I think the you tube guy didn' film the relevant slabbed bit. There are only two formal routes from the standards..red and blue and the slabs are at the point where they diverge.
I do hope they don' slab any more. Certainly the rest of the red route doesnt seem too badly eroded and because the peat bog elements of the c2c are much smaller than the pw; even the slabs laid look quite intrusive.
Looking at the funding aspects of the project, I think that will be it. Nine standards is certainly not blenkinsopp common
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: sussamb on 14:41:17, 23/05/18
There's also a 3rd route I believe, green? It may bypass 9 standards though.
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: bricam2096 on 15:09:40, 23/05/18
There's also a 3rd route I believe, green? It may bypass 9 standards though.

Indeed, that's the wet weather route  O0
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: Deolman on 17:06:10, 23/05/18
I do hope they don' slab any more. Certainly the rest of the red route doesnt seem too badly eroded and because the peat bog elements of the c2c are much smaller than the pw; even the slabs laid look quite intrusive.
Looking at the funding aspects of the project, I think that will be it. Nine standards is certainly not blenkinsopp common


Paving of moorland areas is always a bit of a contentious issue.  When a popular route becomes well churned up it is natural instinct for walkers to go to the side to avoid the muddy bits and so the damage begins to spread. The C2C route from Nine Standards is an obvious example and at its worst during wet weather it could even be classed as dangerous.  On balance I tend to accept paving of popular routes across open moor as the 'blot on the landscape' tends to be more preferable than the aforementioned alternative. Once the moor begins to regenerate itself the paving tends to become less obvious and, to my mind at least, the improvement to the rest of the moor can outweigh the intrusion of the paving slabs.
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: johhnyp on 18:53:11, 23/05/18
The green route does indeed miss the standards. The fourth route is the road via Nateby to the shooters track along ney Gill if it is really wet! O0
My thought on slabbing was that it doesnt' seem as badly worn as suggested away from the newly slabbed area...nothing like what black Hill looked like pre- slabbed.
Possible overreaction?
Title: Re: C2C A1 Diversion at Catterick
Post by: jimbob on 20:03:34, 23/05/18

My thought on slabbing was that it doesnt' seem as badly worn as suggested away from the newly slabbed area...nothing like what black Hill looked like pre- slabbed.
Possible overreaction?
Or possibly a penny worth of prevention saving a pounds worth of cure?