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Title: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 17:14:15, 28/08/20
As you are probably aware, the London Marathon will be a little different this year. While 'elite' runners will be running in London, up to 45,000 others can take part in an official virtual version on Sunday 4th October.
 
My wife signed up this morning for the virtual event and plans to run a 26.2 mile course from home. Not wanting to be left out, I signed up too, but I’ll be walking, not running. According to the official website: 'Participants have 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds to run, jog or walk the 26.2 mile distance, anytime from 00:00 to 23:59:59 BST on Sunday 4 October.' That's good enough for me!
 
My plan is to get one of my daughters to drop me at Lenham, near the North Downs Way, and I'll walk about 20 miles along it to Canterbury, and from there follow the Crab and Winkle Way for the 6 miles home. It's a route I know well, so no navigation will be required!
 
Although we've both signed up and paid our £20 entry fees, we would have attempted marathons on that day anyway even if there had been no 'official' places left.
 
If you're interested, here's the link:  :)
 
https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/your-way/home.html (https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/your-way/home.html)
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: ninthace on 17:51:18, 28/08/20
The nearest I have ever got to a marathon was the Kirkby Stephen Yomp which, at 38km,  is just shy of a full marathon but does involve 1300m of height gain and is nearly all in rough country with the odd boggy bit thrown in.  It's a good day out though!  When I did it, there was the option of walking or running so i walked.  I still passed some of the runners on the up hill bits though.  https://www.yomp.org/

Enjoy your personal marathon - I will be thinking of you.  O0
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: BuzyG on 00:45:21, 29/08/20
Good luck with your marathon Dave.  O0 

I should have been setting off to jog the Dartmoor Highgroud 50 at 6am this morning. Alas another that has had to be cancelled. 

http://www.dartmoorhighground.com/dartmoor-ultra-50-route
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 15:22:33, 29/08/20
Good luck with your marathon Dave.  O0 

I should have been setting off to jog the Dartmoor Highgroud 50 at 6am this morning. Alas another that has had to be cancelled. 

http://www.dartmoorhighground.com/dartmoor-ultra-50-route (http://www.dartmoorhighground.com/dartmoor-ultra-50-route)

Looks an amazing race Buzy. I'm surprised it's been cancelled though - I understand the North Downs Way 100 mile went ahead earlier this month.

Perhaps I should ask this in a different topic, but we're staying for a week in Lydford by Dartmoor next month and are hoping to find a few routes for 10km or so runs in the area. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: BuzyG on 00:56:16, 30/08/20
The marathon was just a superb day out last year. Only around 115 competitors as I recall. So they would possibly have lost money enforcing Covid regulation this year. Darn shame. Might just be the fun run up Yes tor and back next year. Training for the 50 was taking it out of my aging joints ::)
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: Jac on 07:15:24, 30/08/20
In 2000 I completed the 27 mile OATS walk across Dartmoor from Ivybridge to Okehampton. Only10 hours allowed and we took all of it. Great day out. It was in April and there was snow in the high ground and in the peat passes.
I was 20 years younger and fitter then :) :(
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 21:18:21, 08/09/20
Thanks WhitstableDave I managed to get signed up a few days ago before entries closed. I ran it in my 30s, 40s and 50s but I will be walking it this time in my 70s. Something to challenge my body and to keep me fit for my next LDP whenever that will be.
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 13:58:32, 10/09/20
Thanks WhitstableDave I managed to get signed up a few days ago before entries closed. I ran it in my 30s, 40s and 50s but I will be walking it this time in my 70s. Something to challenge my body and to keep me fit for my next LDP whenever that will be.

You are most welcome. I'm delighted that you've signed up and that I won't be the only forum member taking part on the day!  :)

Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: Rob Goes Walking on 19:25:10, 17/09/20
Good luck Dave.

The nearest I have ever got to a marathon was the Kirkby Stephen Yomp which, at 38km,  is just shy of a full marathon but does involve 1300m of height gain and is nearly all in rough country with the odd boggy bit thrown in.  It's a good day out though!  When I did it, there was the option of walking or running so i walked.  I still passed some of the runners on the up hill bits though.  https://www.yomp.org/

Enjoy your personal marathon - I will be thinking of you.  O0

Something I only just recently learned about going uphill from running rather than walking but I've tried it walking too and the same thing happened is if you don't already know this (I bet a few of you or maybe even quite a few, most? Did everyone know but me?) is try halving your stride length and doubling your cadence (foot turnover speed). You won't double your cadence probably but that's not the point just increasing it a bit with half the stride length made funny things happen to my heart rate and pace, good things. I expect the larger the walker/runner, the bigger this difference will be.
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 22:09:58, 17/09/20
Good luck Dave.

Something I only just recently learned about going uphill from running rather than walking but I've tried it walking too and the same thing happened is if you don't already know this (I bet a few of you or maybe even quite a few, most? Did everyone know but me?) is try halving your stride length and doubling your cadence (foot turnover speed). You won't double your cadence probably but that's not the point just increasing it a bit with half the stride length made funny things happen to my heart rate and pace, good things. I expect the larger the walker/runner, the bigger this difference will be.

Thanks Rob.  :)

It's funny you should mention reducing stride length and increasing cadence for hills, because that's something I've learned only recently from taking up running and, as you say, it's quite effective. I'm not really talking about slow slogs up stony hills (although it's probably a good technique there too), but rather about maintaining a good pace on steady steepish gradients.

It's nice to talk about technique for a change...   ;)
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 11:42:35, 27/09/20
It's exactly one week to go 'till the London Marathon.  :)

I've planned my route, and it's easy enough to commit to memory to save me carrying my handheld GPS.

The race numbers have arrived along with four safety pins for each - I'll have one bib pinned to my backpack. The phone app (that I imagine is to record and verify the race) should be available in the next few days.

The forecast at the moment is for light rain and a moderate breeze, which isn't too bad. I'm getting quite excited.  8)
 
(http://www.cruisingmates.co.uk/coppermine/albums/userpics/10054/London_Marathon_route_3.jpg)

It's the route I mentioned in the OP - about 20 miles towards Canterbury along the North Downs Way followed by about 6 miles towards Whitstable along the Crab and Winkle Way.

Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: gunwharfman on 12:00:27, 27/09/20
My technique for trying to run uphills is to use a combination of short steps, then long steps then short ones again, I tend to do 40-50 paces at a time (I count them as I go) as I try to shift the energy needed to different parts of my legs. I also try to shift from the ball of my feet to running flat footed for 40-50 paces, I find using as many variables as possible tends to help me, but not always, of course, some hills always defeat me. My personal rule is that even if I can't make it to the top by running I will just carry on walking. For me, to stop is when I tick it as a failure.

I've never tried a marathon, I've just completed two Great South Runs. Not keen on it though, I like to run alone.
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 12:58:01, 27/09/20
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I've never tried a marathon, I've just completed two Great South Runs. Not keen on it though, I like to run alone.

Just to make sure that no one thinks I'll be running a marathon next  Sunday... I'm walking one. I'll certainly be walking alone though - I doubt I'll see another soul the whole way!  ;)

My wife is running her first marathon though. She'll be doing this there-and-back route along the coast... O0

(http://www.cruisingmates.co.uk/coppermine/albums/userpics/10054/Fred_London_Marathon.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 13:35:05, 27/09/20
I wasn't going to put my race number on as I might look a bit of an idiot (no comments please!) walking along with casual Sunday walkers going past me. It may also encourage people to come close to chat with me and I don't want people near me! I can't understand why they are delaying sending out the app until next week.
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 14:27:27, 27/09/20
I wasn't going to put my race number on as I might look a bit of an idiot (no comments please!) walking along with casual Sunday walkers going past me. It may also encourage people to come close to chat with me and I don't want people near me! I can't understand why they are delaying sending out the app until next week.

Do you get many casual walkers out walking up north when it's raining? Perhaps they're a tougher lot than those down south!  ;)

I've just had a concerning moment. A 1000+ runner marathon that was postponed in the spring is using a few miles of the North Downs Way starting from Charing - about 4 miles further along from where I'll be starting. They're doing a staggered start over 2 hours, so I've got to time it so I don't get to Charing before the last group of interlopers has joined my(!) route.  >:( 
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 14:37:47, 27/09/20
I intend starting at first light so hopefully complete a fair bit of mileage before others venture out. Current weather forecast doesn't look too good, Thursday 1st October - 10th October:-

"An unsettled period, with plenty of showers and some occasional longer spells of rain across much of the country. Some drier and brighter spells are possible at times, which will most likely in southern and eastern areas. The heaviest and most prolonged spells of rain will be in the north and west to begin with but, with time, they are likely to become more widespread across the UK. It will be generally windy, with a risk of gales at times (potentially severe), particularly in northern and north western regions. Feeling cold through much of early October, especially where there is persistent rain and strong winds. Frost is possible at night in any calmer period, especially in northern Britain."
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: Rob Goes Walking on 15:29:12, 27/09/20
Do you get many casual walkers out walking up north when it's raining? Perhaps they're a tougher lot than those down south!  ;)

Without a doubt, and nicer. Life's just better up here!

Good luck with your marathons.  O0
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 20:54:55, 30/09/20
Received the email with the way to get the app. Downloaded, went well for someone who has never downloaded an app - had to use my wife's phone as mine doesn't take apps, however it is a bit newer than the brick I used to use!
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: BuzyG on 11:05:28, 01/10/20
Thanks Rob.  :)

It's funny you should mention reducing stride length and increasing cadence for hills, because that's something I've learned only recently from taking up running and, as you say, it's quite effective. I'm not really talking about slow slogs up stony hills (although it's probably a good technique there too), but rather about maintaining a good pace on steady steepish gradients.

It's nice to talk about technique for a change...   ;)


The short fast steps approach is definitely more efficient the steeper the hill gets. At Some point I end up walking, but maintain the short fast technique.  I think part of it is mechanical advantage. As in you bend and straighter your legs less with small height gains. The Other part is faster cadence means you can match your faster breathing to the effort.  Though for max efficiency you should be maintaining a steady breathing pattern.  I certainly don't though. I push harder up the hills and try to relax/rest going down.  O0


Did you get to Lydford?
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 11:23:21, 01/10/20

...
Did you get to Lydford?

Indeed we did and thanks for asking!  :)

Short accounts of our adventures can be found here...

A week's walking on and around Dartmoor! (http://www.walkingforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=40945.msg592562#msg592562)
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: Zizag on 16:32:57, 03/10/20
To all members of the Forum ,running and walking  the
 London Marathon .
Hope you all have a great day out . ;)
It's a very Special Occasion ,and will be a memorable day for you .


Especially if you are raising money for a charity .
I always found It an Honour and a privilege to help others .


'So go for It'
Do your best on the day :)  .  
Good luck everybody O0
Ps remember , Who and Why you are doing It for:


 when your tireing and hurting.........


 " No Pain No Gain "
Zizag.
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 22:54:19, 03/10/20
Thank you Zizag.  :)

My wife will be setting off from home very early tomorrow to run the marathon.

My daughter is driving me to my starting point near Lenham on the North Downs Way for the start of my walk. If all goes well, I hope to be home by mid-afternoon.
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 15:12:45, 04/10/20
I finished just after 14.00 - not telling when I set off. However thankfully the weather forecast was wrong - no rain at all. However I chose the easy option of an old railway cycle path as I didn't fancy wading through the mud. Knackered, time for a sleep!
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: Zizag on 17:07:21, 04/10/20
I finished just after 14.00 - not telling when I set off. However thankfully the weather forecast was wrong - no rain at all. However I chose the easy option of an old railway cycle path as I didn't fancy wading through the mud. Knackered, time for a sleep!
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: Zizag on 17:14:34, 04/10/20
Well done . :D
It's an excellent achievement .
The weather was kind to you as well.
And it was a wise decision to use an old railway cycle path . ;)
A day to remember. O0

Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 17:16:46, 04/10/20
We had a fantastic day, despite the weather.  8)

My wife completed her first ever marathon, having never run further than a half-marathon distance before. She loved it and can't wait to do another. I think she likes the camaraderie and the cheering, which was in abundance on her route along the seafront. I'm in awe!  O0

I finished my walking marathon in 6 hours 15 minutes, which I'm delighted about. The time is 5 minutes over my PB, but that was set on a level route on good surfaces in ideal conditions. Today, it rained most of the time and I wore waterproofs (including the socks!). The ground was often extremely muddy and very slippery (I had an unpleasant fall on some smooth, wet chalk). And the North Downs Way has several steep sections, which made the overall ascent about 2,200ft. Despite everything, I managed to average 4.2mph.  :)

(I think the next challenge has to be to do a 32 fell miles walk in one day...  ;) )
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: Zizag on 17:30:55, 04/10/20
We had a fantastic day, despite the weather.  8)

My wife completed her first ever marathon, having never run further than a half-marathon distance before. She loved it and can't wait to do another. I think she likes the camaraderie and the cheering, which was in abundance on her route along the seafront. I'm in awe!  O0

I finished my walking marathon in 6 hours 15 minutes, which I'm delighted about. The time is 5 minutes over my PB, but that was set on a level route on good surfaces in ideal conditions. Today, it rained most of the time and I wore waterproofs (including the socks!). The ground was often extremely muddy and very slippery (I had an unpleasant fall on some smooth, wet chalk). And the North Downs Way has several steep sections, which made the overall ascent about 2,200ft. Despite everything, I managed to average 4.2mph.  :)

(I think the next challenge has to be to do a 32 fell miles walk in one day...  ;) )
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: Zizag on 17:48:33, 04/10/20
Well  :D  that was a brilliant achievement for you two ,
Your wife's super run going from half marathon to a full marathon .
That takes some doing .
You must be very proud of her  ::)


And your marathon walk wow .
Excellent time ,I would not worry to much about been 5 minutes over your pb  :o  .  
As you have to consider the terrain and steep ascents and conditions .
So we'll done . O0


Glad you had a memorable day .
Time to rest and recuperate and put your feet up .

Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: PatrickJ on 19:26:51, 04/10/20
We had a fantastic day, despite the weather.  8)

My wife completed her first ever marathon, having never run further than a half-marathon distance before. She loved it and can't wait to do another. I think she likes the camaraderie and the cheering, which was in abundance on her route along the seafront. I'm in awe!  O0

I finished my walking marathon in 6 hours 15 minutes, which I'm delighted about. The time is 5 minutes over my PB, but that was set on a level route on good surfaces in ideal conditions. Today, it rained most of the time and I wore waterproofs (including the socks!). The ground was often extremely muddy and very slippery (I had an unpleasant fall on some smooth, wet chalk). And the North Downs Way has several steep sections, which made the overall ascent about 2,200ft. Despite everything, I managed to average 4.2mph.  :)

(I think the next challenge has to be to do a 32 fell miles walk in one day...  ;) )


Congrats.. amazing achievement.


4.2 mph, that"s a quick pace over that distance in these conditions...
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: BuzyG on 20:28:30, 04/10/20
We had a fantastic day, despite the weather.  8)

My wife completed her first ever marathon, having never run further than a half-marathon distance before. She loved it and can't wait to do another. I think she likes the camaraderie and the cheering, which was in abundance on her route along the seafront. I'm in awe!  O0

I finished my walking marathon in 6 hours 15 minutes, which I'm delighted about. The time is 5 minutes over my PB, but that was set on a level route on good surfaces in ideal conditions. Today, it rained most of the time and I wore waterproofs (including the socks!). The ground was often extremely muddy and very slippery (I had an unpleasant fall on some smooth, wet chalk). And the North Downs Way has several steep sections, which made the overall ascent about 2,200ft. Despite everything, I managed to average 4.2mph.  :)

(I think the next challenge has to be to do a 32 fell miles walk in one day...  ;) )


Really well done to you both. 4.2mph is shifting up and down those hills in poor weather.  O0
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: BrionyB on 21:08:22, 04/10/20
Congratulations to harland and WhitstableDave - and especially Mrs Dave for running it.  O0  I am genuinely in awe of anyone who can run such a distance, regardless of the time, can't even imagine ever being able to do such a thing. Not to mention actually enjoying it!
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 21:14:05, 04/10/20
I managed to average 4.2mph.  :)
Well done, I only averaged 3.45 mph and that was with much easier walking conditions that you had, my only excuse is that I am 73!
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 17:45:39, 17/10/20
My finisher's t-shirt and medal has arrived:  :) 

(http://www.cruisingmates.co.uk/coppermine/albums/userpics/10054/London_Marathon_finisher.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 18:04:52, 17/10/20
Mine hasn't.  >:(
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 18:08:07, 17/10/20
Mine hasn't.  >:(
Actually, mine hasn't either. But it's my birthday and my wife gave me hers (which arrived yesterday) as a present.  :)
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 18:20:07, 17/10/20
Well Happy Birthday, perhaps ours will turn up next week. I can't spot it at the moment but were we supposed to let them know if it didn't turn up by the end of the month or am I getting mixed up with the time the running numbers were due to arrive before the day?
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: WhitstableDave on 18:28:37, 17/10/20
Well Happy Birthday, perhaps ours will turn up next week. I can't spot it at the moment but were we supposed to let them know if it didn't turn up by the end of the month or am I getting mixed up with the time the running numbers were due to arrive before the day?
Thanks.  :) And you're quite right - you'll need to let them know if it doesn't arrive by the end of the month.
Title: Re: 2020 London Marathon – the 40th Race
Post by: harland on 12:57:58, 19/10/20
Mine has just turned up despite the address being wrong but luckily the Hermes guy used the postcode and knew where I lived - not sure how it went wrong as the running (walking!) number turned up correctly. Massive medal this year compared to the previous ones.