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Title: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: pdstsp on 13:53:04, 18/02/21
Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but just a heads up that this is on tonight;


https://www.radiotimes.com/film/f4kc76/edie/


Anyone who read my TR last year may not be surprised to hear I'll be watching.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: gunwharfman on 14:54:29, 18/02/21
I watched it the other night, quite good and I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: pdstsp on 15:37:49, 18/02/21
Cheers GWM - good to hear - I will have a watch I think. O0
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: rural roamer on 18:03:40, 18/02/21
Yes I came across it on BBC2 the other night when flicking through the channels. I enjoyed it, lovely scenery. I had missed the first ten minutes but she hadn’t gone to Scotland at that point.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: richardh1905 on 18:27:21, 18/02/21
Looks interesting. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: BuzyG on 18:43:22, 18/02/21
That sounds worth a look.  Just programmed it in for tonight viewing. O0
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: gunwharfman on 19:04:16, 18/02/21
I watch a stunning documentary on BBC4 the other night called The Last igloo. All about one Inuit hunter, his sledge and his dogs, and it held my attention from beginning to end. The landscapes were beautifully filmed.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: richardh1905 on 19:35:29, 18/02/21
Guess it will be on iplayer for me - Thursday is Death in Paradise night  ::) .
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: pdstsp on 19:57:24, 18/02/21
Yep - I forgot I am zoom quizzing tonight so recording it - Mrs pdstsp will be delighted to watch it on Saturday I am sure.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: fernman on 20:54:17, 18/02/21
Thanks for that. I read the OP just in time to set the recorder.


Guess it will be on iplayer for me - Thursday is Death in Paradise night  ::) .

My OH has the decency to record that and watch it when I'm not around  :)
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: BuzyG on 22:44:56, 18/02/21
That was a really good movie.   O0
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: MarkT on 23:02:14, 18/02/21
Thoroughly enjoyed watching that, quite funny in places and stunning scenery. My question was, did Sheila Hancock actually complete the walk herself, after all she was 83 at the time, no mean feat for anyone let alone a lady of her age. But to my delight she did and found an article from the ukclimbing website which details a bit more about the film and the crew.


https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/edie_the_movie_sheila_hancock_climbs_suilven_in_her_80s-10559


Thanks for the recommendation
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: vizzavona on 08:50:36, 19/02/21
Hello, Shown here in the North on Ch. Four last night.  My eighty three year old wife watched last night and I caught up with on the Play back thing this morning.
Very enjoyable adventure for the Lady who came alive during the filming. :)
As shown it certainly was done the hard way by approaching the hill from the south side?, not been in from that side, our own approach was from the end on the road up to the Lodge to reach the Suileag Bothy where we stayed the night prior to ascending. However in the film there was an overnight in a bothy and Suileag is the only one? that I know in
that area.  Anyway I guess lots of toing and froing in a film production?.
I think that it all came together as a very fine film to watch with the combination of aged and youth.
We were just juveniles in our seventies :)  when we reached Caisteal Liath and Canisp during the same trip....we took along our Rolling Stone daughter to keep an eye on us and to collect enough dry wood to get the fire going in the Bothy.  
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Jac on 09:12:08, 19/02/21
Thanks for the heads up, pdstsp. I enjoyed that and thanks too, MarkT for the link. It left me wondering the same thing. It's over 40 yrs since I was in that area but never got to go up Suilven; a bit too exposed for me I think. Amazing feat for her at 83.


Beautiful place, so different from other highland areas. Staying in Achmelvich we had some wonderful walks and I still treasure some pottery from Highland pottery in Lochinver.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Little Foot on 09:24:13, 19/02/21
Watched this last night, thanks to this post. I definitely wouldn't have noticed it on the planner. I really enjoyed it. I didn't go on for too long and kept me entertained throughout. Recommended!
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Ridge on 09:28:44, 19/02/21
Good to hear people enjoyed it.
I didn't post before people had watched but I read a review of it which said it was ok unless you know the area well in which case you would get annoyed with the changing locations.
I don't know if the brilliant Sheila Hancock walked every step up the hill
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She climbed every single step that the story demanded
but she would have walked some of them hundreds of times, filming is very repetitive.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: gunwharfman on 10:00:53, 19/02/21
I thought her struggles on her hands and knees could be viewed as a bit drippy but I remember that I had to do this twice when I walked the GR10 in France in 2015. I too was on my hands and knees for short stretches as I struggled to get to the summit of two particular mountains, (about 2 weeks apart) and each time it was due to the combined physical effort and the extreme heat that did me in. I didn't throw my rucksack away though, I knew that I had to keep that on my back or I really would have been done for. It was necessary at the time but it was also a rather undignified way of making ones way onward and upward. Luckily no one was around to watch me,
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: andybr on 10:36:58, 19/02/21
Good to hear people enjoyed it.
I didn't post before people had watched but I read a review of it which said it was ok unless you know the area well in which case you would get annoyed with the changing locations.
I don't know if the brilliant Sheila Hancock walked every step up the hill but she would have walked some of them hundreds of times, filming is very repetitive.


We have visited Assynt at least once almost every year since 1984 and know the area fairly well by now. The route suggested by the film is ridiculous and needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt. That said I really like the film and I understand that Sheila Hancock made it a condition of taking the part that she would actually climb the hill as she felt it would lack credibility otherwise. I also like the fact that it does not gloss over the problems the locals face living in such a remote area.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: MarkT on 11:53:56, 19/02/21
@GWM - What do you mean by her struggles on her hands and knees could be viewed as "drippy"?


But then you say you have also done this twice on your walks in France.....so does that make you "drippy"??????
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: gunwharfman on 15:20:16, 19/02/21
I was trying to refer to the way the camera focussed on her face as I saw it, discarding her rucksack, her expressions and her sighing and breathing as if was to emphasise the fact that she was an 'helpless old lady' attempting something she shouldn't perhaps and the possible danger she was in?

When I was on my knees in the Pyrenees I was all of that and more! I was exhausted to the point of tears! When I got to the top of the first mountain I just dragged my quilt out of my rucksack, wrapped myself in it and slept for ages. I was totally done in!

I was more sensible the second time, I deliberately climbed up and up slowly and took lots of rest stops.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Dodgylegs on 12:31:28, 21/02/21
Enjoyed watching it... was wondering.... now how are they going to get back down, then the titles rolled!


Taking on a challenge can bring great benefits, although this kind of challenge is beyond me!


Well done Sheila Hancock  O0
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Islandplodder on 13:33:21, 21/02/21
I saw it a couple of years ago at the cinema (well, the screen machine, a kind of cinema folded up in a lorry that travels round remote areas) and it was pretty spectacular on the bigger screen. My fear of heights kicked in when she got to the top, I was up there with her convinced I was about to fall off!
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: pdstsp on 15:37:10, 21/02/21
Eventually watched it last night with Mrs pdstsp,  I enjoyed it, though that was some crazy walk in!! Guess she climbed it from the south side for better light.  Mrs pdstsp loved it, though her fear of heights cut in a couple of times.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Ridge on 18:13:23, 21/02/21
Just watched. Nice, gentle Sunday afternoon viewing and stunning scenery.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: gunwharfman on 18:59:31, 21/02/21
I know I'm being picky but I did notice when the 'expert' young man helped her to put her rucksack on he secured it around her waist.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Ridge on 19:01:13, 21/02/21
I know I'm being picky but I did notice when the 'expert' young man helped her to put her rucksack on he secured it around her waist.
Most of the time he only had 1 shoulder strap on when carrying his rucksack.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: gunwharfman on 19:55:58, 21/02/21
And whenever I saw their rucksacks they reminded me of visiting Cotswold Outdoors to find that they were filled with paper to make them look good for me the viewing customer. I also noticed how light the rucksacks were in the film, I could never swing my rucksacks off my shoulder that easily as they did and certainly couldn't run with my rucksack on my back.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: fernman on 21:47:53, 21/02/21
And whenever I saw their rucksacks they reminded me of visiting Cotswold Outdoors to find that they were filled with paper to make them look good for me the viewing customer. I also noticed how light the rucksacks were in the film, I could never swing my rucksacks off my shoulder that easily as they did and certainly couldn't run with my rucksack on my back.

The same as tv programmes such as those featuring Bear Grylls and cast, or Ed Stafford - have you noticed how the rucksacks always float on the surface of water?  :)
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: April on 07:52:36, 22/02/21
I watched it yesterday evening, it was ok ish. Nice scenery but it was a bit daft at times as others have said.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: windyrigg on 09:43:36, 22/02/21
Gives me a mental picture of Keswick high street in summer, folks parading up and down in gear suitable for an attempt on a Himalayan summit with the polystyrene  filled haversack - oops sorry, should this be in the small rant thread ?  :P
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Ridge on 10:06:19, 22/02/21
Gives me a mental picture of Keswick high street in summer, folks parading up and down in gear suitable for an attempt on a Himalayan summit with the polystyrene  filled haversack - oops sorry, should this be in the small rant thread ?  :P
I have come to realise that there are 2 groups of walkers. Those that you describe are all-the-gear-no-idea and are better equipped than I am but don't know what they are doing. The other group are less well equipped than I am and are a danger to themselves and to MRT.
I am, you will be unsurprised to hear, always correct.


There is of course a third group who are up in the hills with no supplies and wearing nothing but 2 flimsy bits of polyester, but fell runners are a hard to quantify mixture of amazing and bonkers.



Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: gunwharfman on 10:19:06, 22/02/21
My mental picture goes back to when I hiked the West Highland Way. I was sitting on a bench in a car park on the edge of the lake when a BMW car parked almost in front of me. Mum and Dad got out with two 8 to 10ish-year-old children. They opened the boot and all started to put on what looked like the very best and bright clothing, hats, and boots. The children wore green wellies. They then wandered down to the water's edge walked to the left and right, maybe 100 yds in each direction, the kids then ran around for a while and mum and dad stopped to admire the view. After all of this activity, about 20 mins later, they all strolled back to the car, undressed again, Mum folded everything neatly in the boot, and off they drove.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: fernman on 11:42:03, 22/02/21
I have lots of memories like those of Ridge and Gunwharfman.
Trudging all day up into the Rhinogs with a backpack, wearing waterproofs in wet mist and finally emerging above the cloud inversion, where a fell runner wearing just shorts, tee shirt and trainers popped out of the mist behind me.
The farmer (or was he?) who passed me high up in the middle of the Carneddau dressed in an old long-sleeved white shirt and equally old black casual trousers, not carrying anything and looking like someone out for an afternoon stroll.
The couple in a lane near Betws-y-Coed, striding along in brand new shiny gear and boots, a couple of hundred yards from their brand new shiny Range Rover.
DoE teens seen numerous times struggling along with huge packs and clad in fleeces and waterproofs on relatively mild days when I only had a microfleece shirt on my top.


 
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: BuzyG on 22:03:52, 22/02/21
Seems we have wandered off topic a little, but hey it's fun.  I'm sure any who have walked the SWCP past High Cliff will have found the pub. provided by some local entrepreneurial spirit.  A Range rover parked in a field on the path with a couple of camping chairs and tables for the punters.  O0

Most surprises I ever was. A poorly planed first attempt to climb mount Baldly.  I was 23, had no map and no compass just bought a few butties and bottles of water from the store and set off. Simply walking up from the condo I was staying at, in Pomona.  I reach the summit of Frankish Peak 1245m,  to discover, it was a very long way from there to the top. So I stayed there a while enjoying the view of LA and watching a local Pilot flying his stunt plane in a very entertaining way below me.  Then to my amazement A 4x4 appeared and after a discussion about crazy Brits and Rattle snakes I got a lift back down on a dirt road on the other side of the ridge I had no idea was there. :-[

A few days later I took the Cable car up and waked to the correct summit. Oh the adventures of youth. ;D
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: MkPotato on 07:12:43, 23/02/21
There is of course a third group who are up in the hills with no supplies and wearing nothing but 2 flimsy bits of polyester, but fell runners are a hard to quantify mixture of amazing and bonkers.


🤣
Fell-runners seem to be exempt from any of the rules of common sense and self preservation.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: BuzyG on 00:34:48, 24/02/21

There is of course a third group who are up in the hills with no supplies and wearing nothing but 2 flimsy bits of polyester, but fell runners are a hard to quantify mixture of amazing and bonkers.


I view fell runners more as walkers, who travel quickly.   If your only out for a couple of hours walking do you take all your kit? 
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Dyffryn Ardudwy on 17:10:06, 24/02/21
Its 4hrs 9min now, for the 27mile Welsh 3000s round, that's what i really call travelling quickly
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: Eyelet on 19:55:43, 24/02/21
If your only out for a couple of hours walking do you take all your kit?

The answer is of course ... it all depends when and where the couple of hours are going to take you. Ask yourself the "What if?" question.

This UKC article by a runner who slipped on ice and self-rescued after sustaining an ankle fracture is worth a read on such decisions this time of year: https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/skills/series/running/my_winter_accident_-_a_cautionary_tale-13350 (https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/skills/series/running/my_winter_accident_-_a_cautionary_tale-13350)
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: BuzyG on 01:16:10, 25/02/21
The answer is of course ... it all depends when and where the couple of hours are going to take you. Ask yourself the "What if?" question.

This UKC article by a runner who slipped on ice and self-rescued after sustaining an ankle fracture is worth a read on such decisions this time of year: https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/skills/series/running/my_winter_accident_-_a_cautionary_tale-13350 (https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/skills/series/running/my_winter_accident_-_a_cautionary_tale-13350)
I always try to cover the risks.  However if you are out in the wilds for less time then things like weather are less likely to catch you out.  You need less food and drink too.  All these things mean you can travel lighter, without increasing the overall risk.  How much lighter should your kit list be is the one we need to ask ourselves?  Not that much is my own opinion.  So I carry my wife's day sack with a layer of spare clothes even if I'm planning to jog the whole route and only be a few hours.  In the winter I carry full kit and walk.  To old to jog with a full ruck sack on my back.
Title: Re: BBC4 at 9 tonight
Post by: BuzyG on 01:20:48, 25/02/21
Its 4hrs 9min now, for the 27mile Welsh 3000s round, that's what i really call travelling quickly


The Dartmoor high ground marathon record is just under 4 hours now. Took me over 7 though but what a great day out.  Hope to do the Welsh 3000s one day.  Still not done all the Scottish 4000s though so could be a while. So many hills and so little time on this fine earth.