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Title: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 18:18:31, 27/09/19
I have used a baggage transfer service each time I walk a LDW. Walking Hadrians Wall for the second time recently  I experienced my first problem when the hotel staff were not available to hand over my suitcase to the Baggage Handling courier. It got me to thinking how many others have had problems with using these services and wouldn’t it be useful to have others opinions of either the B&B’s they have stayed at and/or the baggage companies they have used.


In my case the Kenilworth Hotel, West Jesmond, Newcastle - negative. Once a member of staff had been found was totally indifferent with respect to where my suitcase was and the driver initially went away empty handed. Would definitely  not stay there again.


Hadrians Wall Baggage Transfer Service, Corbridge. Positive - went well beyond what they needed to do in order to retrieve my bag from the Hotel and Mark couldn’t have been more helpful
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: harland on 18:44:26, 27/09/19
With one exception I always carry everything myself.  The exception being when I walked the Camino Frances this year I used Camino Ways to transfer some of my "stuff" daily.  They were excellent, as were all the accommodation providers, with nothing going wrong although I am sure that with the number of pilgrims who walk this path the system is very well established.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: sussamb on 19:38:11, 27/09/19
When I do a LDW I carry all my kit, I'm not going to a fashion show so don't need anything that won't fit in 45L  O0
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Islandplodder on 07:15:15, 28/09/19
I usually carry my stuff and just don't take much. However, when I did the Robert Louis Stevenson trail everything including baggage transfer was booked through Sherpa. It all worked very smoothly, and I have to say I thought the baggage transfer idea was brilliant.
I went back to packing light and carrying everything for the next ldp, but I can see there will come a time
.....



Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 07:20:22, 28/09/19
I have found Sherpa to be a tad more expensive than others and on some trails they charge for a minimum of two bags even for solo walkers.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: ron6632 on 07:35:48, 28/09/19
Used baggage transfer on the Cleveland Way last year with a mix of hostels, hotels and campsites.  Everything ran like clockwork, although we did contact all our accommodation well in advance to let them know that the bags would be arriving. 


Can’t remember which company we used though, although I think the transfers were all done by cab rather than their own van. 


Generally book all our own accommodation then the transfer on the side (if at all).  Used several different companies (throughout the uk) over the years and never had any problems. 
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 07:45:22, 28/09/19
I also plan my walks well in advance booking my own accommodation. This can not only save you several hundred pounds but accommodation can generally be booked on, or near, the trail. I always check prior to booking that the accomodation providers are OK with baggage transfers then just prior to my walk will advise them which Company I will be using.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: sussamb on 09:47:16, 28/09/19
I went back to packing light and carrying everything for the next ldp, but I can see there will come a time
.....

Yes, if that time comes I'd rather use a baggage transfer service than stop walking LDPs  O0
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Mel on 14:38:20, 28/09/19
Following this topic with interest for when I've saved up enough money to do the West Highland Way - so looking out for possible pitfalls to bear in mind with using such companies.  I'll be paying someone else to sort out all my accommodation and baggage transfer so I can just enjoy the walk and look forward to lots of creature comforts at the end of each day. 



Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 15:15:37, 28/09/19
[size=0px](Following this topic with interest for when I've saved up enough money to do the West Highland Way - so looking out for possible pitfalls to bear in mind with using such companies.  I'll be paying someone else to sort out all my accommodation and baggage transfer so I can just enjoy the walk and look forward to lots of creature comforts at the end of each day. )  

 Hi Mel

 
When I walked the WHW in 2017 I used AMS Scotland (  www.amsscotland.co.uk (http://www.amsscotland.co.uk/)  ) and had no problems with them.  Regarding 'creature comforts, one site I stayed at on the WHW was a mixture of Glamping, B&B Chalets, and campers.  The rain was coming down like stair rods and I have to confess I felt a little smug in my warm chalet with all my kit drying nicely near  the radiator and a hot drink in my hand watching all the campers doing their best to get their tents up and get their kit dry. Shame!  
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Mel on 20:05:01, 28/09/19
Haha.  I think I'd feel sorry for them....from the comfort of my nice, warm room.... in my nice, dry clothes  :D


But in all seriousness, that's exactly why I'm looking at luggage transfer and stay in B&Bs - so I at least know if the weather is grim on the walk I've got somewhere warm and dry to go and some warm and dry clothes to change into at the end of the day. Oh, and escape the midges  ;D   


... Actually, escaping the midges is probably the most important bit  :-\


Sorry, thread hijack.  Back to the pros and cons of baggage transfer ....  O0
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 20:07:56, 28/09/19
I was also concerned about midges and took various repellants and even bought a face net but the little blighters didn’t turn up!
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Mel on 20:26:07, 28/09/19
What month did you do it?
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 20:27:30, 28/09/19
Beginning of July
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Mel on 20:37:53, 28/09/19
Oh, that's interesting.  I'd have assumed it would be a midge-fest then too.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: harland on 20:44:11, 28/09/19
I walked both the WHW and the GGW in May 2008.  I didn't use any spray or netting but I didn't get bitten by any midges however I guess that they don't fancy me - or anything/anyone else for that matter! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Mel on 20:49:39, 28/09/19
My hopes are to do it end of April/beginning of May for the very reason of midge-avoidance (they LOVE me  :(  )


Really sorry about the thread hijack Deolman  :-[
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: jimbob on 20:58:30, 28/09/19
Like Harland I used a service on a part of the Camino Frances when I wanted to cover distance. I never had any problems there, I arranged the company daily, there were many to choose from, usually the staff at the albergues (hostals) recommended one company over another and made the arrangements. The fact that my bag was ahead of me certainly kept me walking a few extra miles daily.

I think if I had knowledge of a similar ad hoc type transfer infrastructure I might have been tempted to use it when I abandoned the GGW due to hurting myself earlier this year.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: rural roamer on 15:28:03, 29/09/19
We have used baggage transfer services on all our LDW’s, having not started multiday walks until into our 50’s and me with an already dodgy shoulder. So we’ve had lots of experience of different services.  I can understand the preference for carrying everything yourself, but for us it seemed like the best option, like some have said if its that or not do the walk, there’s no choice! I daren’t think about how much we have paid for this service over the years, but its a lot! We always book up the accommodation ourselves as using a “package holiday” company is very expensive, and they often use one of the baggage transfer companies anyway. A solo walker we often met up with while doing the Pennine Way had paid more than both of us put together! (And he got no choice of where to stay and often a not so nice single room). We did once use Sherpas accommodation booking service when we did the C2C as we were both still working and didn’t have the time. Thats a good compromise, as you just pay them an admin fee. Below is a list of the ones we have used:-


Dales Way - Brigantes
Coast to Coast - Sherpa Van
Cotswold Way - Carryabag (part of Compass Holidays)
Hadrian’s Wall - Walkers Bags ( seem to no longer be operating)
Pennine Way - Brigantes
Offas Dyke - no service available, B&Bs or taxis transferred bags
Two Moors Way - Luggage Transfer Services


There’s more choice of companies on the more popular walks. Sometimes we have used a service because they offered car parking and/or people transfer to/from start or end. We were a bit concerned when booking up Offas Dyke but it worked really well, they seem to have it off to a fine art and theres obviously no need for a transfer service. The cost has varied greatly. I think we have paid as little as £6 and as much as £20 per bag per day! (The £20 was on the longest leg of the Two Moors Way this year, and this has probably been the most expensive trip but they are the only company operating there). Something to bear in mind is the fact that they often charge for a minimum of 2 bags so it can work out very expensive for a solo walker.


The services on all of the walks have gone well. The bags have always arrived before us even when we’ve had a short day. The only exception was in Bath at the end of the Cotswold Way when they had got stuck in traffic jams (though it was their last drop off and it was only 20 mins after the deadline so we forgave them!) We nearly had an issue this year on the Two Moors Way when the B&B said they would only be there in the afternoon and I knew they would probably drop off in the morning. In the end the landlady decided she could be there after all. It was off route a bit and the baggage company had not been there before. Usually the B&Bs and baggage companies are familiar with each other so know roughly drop off times or have somewhere safe to leave bags.


Sorry for the long post, hope theres some useful info!  ;D
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 17:58:34, 29/09/19
You make some good points. The debate that is sometimes had on the merits of camping as against the use of B&B’s I have never really understood. At the end of the day it is just a personal choice. Personally I can’t see any joy in either camping or caravanning and much prefer the home comforts of a B&B. With regards to baggage transfers I have never found them over-expensive but maybe that’s me.
Walkers Baggage on the HWT have ceased trading. Brigantes I have used them once on the Dales Way and will not use them again. I object to a courier storming into the breakfast room whilst eating my breakfast at 08:15 and demanding my baggage as he has a busy day and even more so when Brigantes can’t  even be bothered to reply to my emailed complaint.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: archaeoroutes on 19:49:34, 29/09/19
Reading this thread with interest.
All my multi-day expeds have been in the wild, so no chance of B&B or baggage transfer. If I were to do a long-distance walk where such a thing was possible, I'd definitely consider it. Whilst I enjoy camping, I don't see the point when down low. If I was in a B&B or hostel overnight I could have a laptop and get some writing done after each stretch of walking - a bit like I do when I move into a hostel for a week and do 5hr walks in the morning up into the mountains and then write all afternoon.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: pdstsp on 20:18:50, 29/09/19
Really interesting topic.  I am another who tends to B&B or pub stay.  When I was cycle touring I got used to carrying minimal extra gear, so I am used to carrying everything I need, though I don't need much.  When I cycled LEJOG one of my younger colleagues said my entire luggage for 10 days was less than her make-up bag for a weekend away! And I found that I took a couple of things I didn't use!  Now I quite like being self-sufficient but I also see the advantage of these services.  Indeed on my C2C earlier this year, one of the guys asked why we had to carry everything when there was an alternative.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: rural roamer on 13:11:09, 01/10/19
Deolman - sorry to hear of your experience with Brigantes. It’s when something goes wrong that you know how good a company is.


Pdstsp - the alternative does cost though! You could look at it the other way and say why pay someone to carry your stuff when you can carry it yourself! To start with we sort of resented paying out but now we just accept that it’s that or probably not do the walk!
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Stube on 20:17:02, 01/10/19
I camp and carry all my own gear for the flexibility that permits. Using B&Bs and baggage services (even if they exist on the more obscure routes I prefer to walk) would mean a rigid schedule that destroys much of the pleasure for me.

I like to vary the distance covered each day depending on the weather, my mood, and what's around me. Visits to points of interest along the way are part of the routine as is changing the route! :)
One exception that I ponder is to walk the SWCP staying in the grand 4* hotels along the way. But that calls for serious money!
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Slogger on 11:50:20, 05/10/19
Baggage carrying services, they should all be banned! Then the trails would be the domain of serious long distance walkers and not all these casuals who would never be able set foot on a trail if they had to carry their own gear like us dedicated lot. The trails would be less crowded, like they used to be, more peaceful and not as worn, and accomodation if you needed it would be cheaper. Ban the lot that's what I say! :o
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Slogger on 11:59:10, 05/10/19
Just in case my post above has upset anyone, it was a joke. I feel that I may be coming to that time shortly where if i want to carry on doing long distance trails I may have to stop carrying my own gear and use such a service. It will of course cost much more than wild camping with the odd b&b. These services have indeed opened up the trails to people who for one reason or another wouldn't do the routes if they had to carry everything, but there is more than one way to follow a route and these services facilitate that.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Jac on 12:09:45, 05/10/19
Just in case my post above has upset anyone, it was a joke. I feel that I may be coming to that time shortly where if i want to carry on doing long distance trails I may have to stop carrying my own gear and use such a service. It will of course cost much more than wild camping with the odd b&b. These services have indeed opened up the trails to people who for one reason or another wouldn't do the routes if they had to carry everything, but there is more than one way to follow a route and these services facilitate that.

Oh - shame - I was looking forward to the responses - you should have left at least a couple of hours for people to 'bite' :)


but hopefully it will be sometime before you have need of a baggage service.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: ninthace on 12:12:11, 05/10/19
How about being borne aloft by bearers and save all that walking altogether Slogger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsdaWEYHw4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsdaWEYHw4)
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 17:20:02, 05/10/19
Just in case my post above has upset anyone, it was a joke. I feel that I may be coming to that time shortly where if i want to carry on doing long distance trails I may have to stop carrying my own gear and use such a service. It will of course cost much more than wild camping with the odd b&b. These services have indeed opened up the trails to people who for one reason or another wouldn't do the routes if they had to carry everything, but there is more than one way to follow a route and these services facilitate that.


As well as benefits for the walker there are also benefits for the many small, often isolated, village communities.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Slogger on 20:07:12, 07/10/19
How about being borne aloft by bearers and save all that walking altogether Slogger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsdaWEYHw4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsdaWEYHw4)
Ha,ha, now that would be something!
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Slogger on 20:12:36, 07/10/19

As well as benefits for the walker there are also benefits for the many small, often isolated, village communities.
Very true. perhaps especially the Coast to Coast route where you really have to book almost a year ahead during the 'season'. Not baggage carrying as such, but for example the Spine race. In January when things are generally very quiet in Edale, for one weekend anyway, accomodation, pubs etc are booked out for miles around with competitors. The pub, cage, shop trade benefit too as they move up the Pennine Way, then at the finish in Kirk Yetholm, booked out there too.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: tonyk on 14:22:31, 08/10/19
When I do a LDW I carry all my kit, I'm not going to a fashion show so don't need anything that won't fit in 45L  O0
Same here.Baggage transfer is about leaving all the junk at home rather than paying someone to transfer your junk when on a walk.If people are struggling to carry a 10-12 kg load on a walk they need more training in load carrying.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: harland on 14:48:28, 08/10/19
Same here.Baggage transfer is about leaving all the junk at home rather than paying someone to transfer your junk when on a walk.If people are struggling to carry a 10-12 kg load on a walk they need more training in load carrying.
Is this another wind up like Slogger's? ;D
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: rural roamer on 15:34:24, 08/10/19
Just in case my post above has upset anyone, it was a joke. I feel that I may be coming to that time shortly where if i want to carry on doing long distance trails I may have to stop carrying my own gear and use such a service. It will of course cost much more than wild camping with the odd b&b. These services have indeed opened up the trails to people who for one reason or another wouldn't do the routes if they had to carry everything, but there is more than one way to follow a route and these services facilitate that.


We’ve spent far less on holidays abroad! Nearly three weeks walking the Pennine Way, a different B&B each night (so no discounts!), a meal out every night, baggage transfer, getting to/ from start and finish and possibly car parking. Did I leave anything out? That was one of our most expensive holidays ever! Not that we’re complaining.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 15:47:53, 08/10/19
Is this another wind up like Slogger's? ;D


I would certainly hope so
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: tonyk on 19:47:47, 08/10/19
Is this another wind up like Slogger's? ;D
I wasn't being 100% serious but I have often found that people staying in hostels are carrying,or struggling with,loads far heavier than those carried by walkers with tents,sleeping bags etc.Its not surprising they are paying someone to transfer kit.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 19:56:28, 08/10/19
I wasn't being 100% serious but I have often found that people staying in hostels are carrying,or struggling with,loads far heavier than those carried by walkers with tents,sleeping bags etc.Its not surprising they are paying someone to transfer kit.


That may be true in some cases but many others, such as myself, carry a day bag with just sufficient for the day.i.e. waterproofs, spare socks, packed lunch, and first aid/ emergency kit. As my health has deteriorated over the years I could not risk walking an LDW without the use of B&B’s and a baggage transfer service.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: rural roamer on 22:21:59, 08/10/19

That may be true in some cases but many others, such as myself, carry a day bag with just sufficient for the day.i.e. waterproofs, spare socks, packed lunch, and first aid/ emergency kit. As my health has deteriorated over the years I could not risk walking an LDW without the use of B&B’s and a baggage transfer service.


What he said!  O0
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Mel on 23:19:17, 08/10/19
So, to summarise then….
 
Positives of using baggage transfer – someone else is doing all the fetching and carrying so you can enjoy the walk and enjoy some creature comforts at the end of the day that you wouldn’t normally carry.
 
Negatives of using baggage transfer – your peers will think you’re a lily-livered pansy if you don’t trudge along with the weight of the world on your back, for fun/pleasure/self-flagellation as you try to prove to your 70 year old self that you can still “make it” into the SAS if you wanted to.


 ;)


*sits back and waits to see if she gets a nibble....*


 
 
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: jimbob on 00:59:40, 09/10/19
Surely, Mel, the porterage of the equipment is the duty of the valet, with assistance from the undergardener.

One needs a decent port after the roast of an evening. Can't trust thebumkins to provide the decent quaff, can we. Sometimes the groom carries the hip bath and commode so that personal ablutions can be assured at all times.

No need for day packs the parlour maid ensures refreshments are available at the correct hour with linen provided by the chambermaid.

Preparation and planning are what makes a stroll in the country so invigorating.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: rural roamer on 08:17:39, 09/10/19
Yep you’ve got that about right Mel!  ;D  Even if they were being serious I don’t care anyway, I’ll do it my way.
 We haven’t got onto those that attempt LDWs with little or no navigation skills or walking training yet! I would concede that baggage transfer services and perhaps more so the “package” walks make it easier for those people to undertake walks they may not have considered before.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: pdstsp on 13:26:44, 09/10/19
I can definitely see the advantage particularly for health reasons, or if you want to take a few luxuries.  Just had a quick look on the Sherpa site and they seem to charge about £8 - £9 per bag per day, so for an 11 day C2C around £90-£100, which is not too bad in my opinion. 


For me, my kit, over and above what is in the day bag anyway, is only a lightweight pair of trousers, spare walking t shirt and boxers, light shoes, my kindle, toothbrush and razor.  The weight is pretty much negligible so I am happy to carry it.  I also quite like being self-sufficient - but only to an extent - no camping gear in my bag!  So there, you lily-livered pansies  ;D


As far as "fun/pleasure/self-flagellation" goes, I was taught by the Christian Brothers so this is an important part of my suffering.   :)



 
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: barewirewalker on 14:11:06, 09/10/19
Surely, Mel, the porterage of the equipment is the duty of the valet, with assistance from the undergardener.

One needs a decent port after the roast of an evening. Can't trust thebumkins to provide the decent quaff, can we. Sometimes the groom carries the hip bath and commode so that personal ablutions can be assured at all times.

No need for day packs the parlour maid ensures refreshments are available at the correct hour with linen provided by the chambermaid.

Preparation and planning are what makes a stroll in the country so invigorating.
The problem with such expectations is the usual 500 acre X zone around the location of such comforts. As with Harry Cotterell OBE, who lives in an area of 11 square miles bare of any footpaths and desires to preserve the privileges of his ageing pater;
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Cotterell baronetsThe Cotterell Baronetcy, of Garnons in the County of Hereford, is a title in the Baronetage of the United Kingdom. It was created on 2 November 1805 for John Cotterell, Member of Parliament for Herefordshire for many years. The third Baronet also represented this constituency in the House of Commons. The fourth Baronet was Lord-Lieutenant of Herefordshire.
You would have to be able to phone a friend of a fiend, high up on the county list to get past the gatehouse.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 14:29:51, 09/10/19
There are a number of baggage services along the C2C. I have used C2C Packhorse as they were a little bit cheaper than Sherpa. They are based in Kirby Stephen and Sherpa are based in Richmond.  On some of the shorter LDW's Sherpa will charge for a min of 2 bags.  By doing my own planning I can save several hundred pounds compared to paying for a package and I can generally get a B & B no more than half a mile from the trail.


Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: ninthace on 16:34:34, 09/10/19


Mel and friends stop for a light lunch during their walk round Lady Bower
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Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Deolman on 16:56:15, 09/10/19
 ;D
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Bigfoot_Mike on 18:58:22, 09/10/19
Which one is Mel? We have never met.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: ninthace on 19:00:00, 09/10/19
Which one is Mel? We have never met.
I have - you're in trouble for asking!
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: vghikers on 19:20:47, 09/10/19
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Surely, Mel, the porterage of the equipment is the duty of the valet, with assistance from the undergardener.

One needs a decent port after the roast of an evening. Can't trust thebumkins to provide the decent quaff, can we.
Bonus points for porterage and quaff  :)
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: ninthace on 19:31:52, 09/10/19
Bonus points for porterage and quaff  :)
A gentleman does not quaff anything other than an ale.  And as for using an undergardener for carrying equipment - that is the role of the footmen and grooms.  Gardening staff are to assist cook in the conveyance of comestibles.  Ye gods!
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: jimbob on 19:45:59, 09/10/19
A gentleman does not quaff anything other than an ale.  And as for using an undergardener for carrying equipment - that is the role of the footmen and grooms.  Gardening staff are to assist cook in the conveyance of comestibles.  Ye gods!
The groom has his job to do and the under gardener is capable of walking which the older staff seem not to be. Should have buried the butler eons ago.

If quaffing port was good enough for  Peter and Bertie then tis good enough for me.

Ale is for the after rugger supper, not for the jolly jaunt around the estate.
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: sussamb on 19:48:38, 09/10/19
I have - you're in trouble for asking!

 ;D O0
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: ninthace on 20:15:22, 09/10/19
The groom has his job to do and the under gardener is capable of walking which the older staff seem not to be. Should have buried the butler eons ago.

If quaffing port was good enough for  Peter and Bertie then tis good enough for me.

Ale is for the after rugger supper, not for the jolly jaunt around the estate.
  I would suggest that a decent ginger beer is more appropriate for a walk.  A good red and a chilled white (and rose of course  if ladies are present) should of course accompany luncheon.  Port is more for after dinner TBH.


There was a time at Cranwell when as a student I was charged with the arrangements for a camp that started the day after the summer ball.  I arranged for a 4 tonner to be backed up to the Mess as the ball finished at around 0600 and we outloaded the uneaten food that had would otherwise have been thrown away.  We used this as the basis for the first day's lunch.  The smoked salmon etc was going down much better than the usual compo when the distaff (who only seemed to have cheese sandwiches) complained that the camp was supposed to involve an element of hardship.  By way of justification I pointed out that we had only been able to liberate bottles of Italian wine rather than the good stuff.


Late edit for poor punctuation - must try harder
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: Mel on 23:22:34, 09/10/19
Chuckling  :D
Title: Re: Baggage Transfer - Positives and Negatives
Post by: sussamb on 07:06:09, 10/10/19
Late edit for poor punctuation - must try harder


I'll have to get my red pen out if you do it again  O0