Author Topic: What would you have done?  (Read 4194 times)

Ian

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #30 on: 12:53:41, 01/02/10 »
Fair enough Angry Climber, we'll have to agree to disagree. 

Sorry if I've managed to get your goat a bit here.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #31 on: 13:01:07, 01/02/10 »
I don't really understand Angry Climber, would you have got a slap on the back of the head for saying

"now chaps I see you have the full equipment would you be so kind as to dig me a few step so I can carry on to the top"

or to put it in a less mountain based scenario, perhaps

"I see you've got the cutlery drawer open, would you be so kind as to pass me a knife so I can butter this slice of bread"

I'm still confused as to why this is bad manners.

That bit isn't rude. It might be funny, but it's not rude (actually, it's exceptionally polite in the circumstances).

BUT, it does suggest a bit of a nerve, thinking it's OK to go half way up a mountain and then rely on someone else to bail you out. It's not as if he was acting in ignorance, as if he has all the right gear at home, he presumably knows what IS the right gear.

The rude bits are a) picking someone up on their work so aggressively when they have no obligation to be doing it in the first place. "Would you mind just making that one a bit more level, as I'm not so sure footed. Thanks." would have been better, and b) calling someone "boy", which no matter how you look at it is derogatory as it suggests a master/servant relationship.

Me, I think I'd have said "do you mind not calling me boy please?", "I'm sorry, but I AM doing YOU a favour here, please don't be so bossy", and "I'm happy to help you get down, but not up, so you can go home and collect the gear you've got".

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #32 on: 13:05:05, 01/02/10 »
Fair enough Angry Climber, we'll have to agree to disagree. 

Sorry if I've managed to get your goat a bit here.

We will and you did, However this is an open forum and so you should never feel sorry for expressing your view. Even if you are soooo wrong  ;D
 
Only kidding no need to start again  ;)
 
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Stoke scrambler

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #33 on: 13:07:28, 01/02/10 »
Regardless of what we had advised the guy to do. from his tone and manner he was going up. What niggled me a little was the fact that, after crossing over to him at his request for help, and then cutting steps for him. It was the way he said no side ways boy (add your own joke there).
Apparently he wasn't the only numpty out on Saturday, scanning through the posts on the UKClimbing forum other people encountered ill equipped people in even more dangerous places
 
AC you added you last bit whilst I was typing.....Valid point. it is an open Forum, a place where we can debate issues. As we've said on other posts if we all agreed all the time life would be so dull  :)

Ian

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #34 on: 13:16:19, 01/02/10 »
Don't get me wrong stoke scrambler, I'm sure that you're completely able to judge the behaviour of someone you met for yourself.  The reason I felt like I should throw my two cents worth in, was because to me, the thread read something like this

Post 1: Actual account of meeting toff on mountain

Post 2: Kill him! 

Post 3: Kill all toffs!

Post 4: Killing's too good for em.......kill em anyway

Now before you all jump in, I am laughing as I type.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #35 on: 13:41:10, 01/02/10 »
 ;D

SouthDowns

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #36 on: 13:50:58, 01/02/10 »
Well now, if you're going to compare the mountain toff with David Cameron, you really are being insulting.

And yes, I do mean that the way you think I mean it. Whatever that is  ;)
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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #37 on: 14:18:41, 01/02/10 »
Oh Julian, you are a card, haw haw haw, snort  O0
 
I'm not a "Toff Basher" I've met and socialised with plenty of so called upper class people, but most of them didn't fit the stereotype, this chap, unfortunately, appears to.
 
Obviously manners and common sense are kept in ones chin  ;)
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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #38 on: 14:19:56, 01/02/10 »
TBH you just had to be there to appriciate it
 
@ Julian love it  :2funny:

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #39 on: 14:24:01, 01/02/10 »
Tally ho chaps - hours of fun here:  http://www.andybarefoot.com/politics/cameron.php

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #40 on: 16:54:03, 01/02/10 »
Wow , what a debate!!  Think I may have painted a bad picture as I said before!  I wasn't offended by him , in fact he made me laugh all the way down!  Different back grounds but as said we are all human that is true.  My point was really would you have assisted him up the mountain or given him advise to go down?  Thinking now maybe we could have put him off a bit and given advise , but at the end of the day we have to respect his decision wise or unwise.  But it the same old thing about M/R having to risk their lives to save others if he makes an unwise decision.  Very interesting though what people think. 
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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #41 on: 18:39:26, 01/02/10 »
Ben, you don't have to respect his decision if he's being a complete twonk  ;)
 
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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #42 on: 19:15:30, 01/02/10 »
Oh blimey - this topic really has put a smile on my face today...  its nuts - its serious - its funny - its enlightening.  I have such a picture of this chap.  Great forum posts O0
 
....and where did the David Dameron posters come from ???  I've just made a few of my own - brilliant fun - but cannot get them to post on here - boo.  But brilliant all round - made me laugh out loud in work today, and has continued now at home !!
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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #43 on: 19:19:52, 01/02/10 »
oh and to give my view - if Lord of the Glyders had called me 'boy' and spoken to me the way you describe - I'd have probaly done what you chaps did ie helped him, but then on reflection wished I'd pushed him down the slope.  Which of course I'd never actually of done !! ???

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #44 on: 19:22:52, 01/02/10 »
and i take it from earlier forum posts today - I'm about to join the full member club !! O0

 

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