Sorry, Mel can only partially agree with you. Yes, my long coat is great for walking on the flat but stiles are easy, I clambered over two this morning, just gathered up the lower part, got over the stile in the usual way and then once over just let the material fall back to its natural position. Walking uphill can be a bit of a problem, which I'm working on now, its a particular problem when it's raining AND it's windy because my knees keep pushing at the gap in the material and the wind blows the gap open, but I now believe I have more or less solved this matter. I just stuff a pinny of waterproof silnylon over my belt which hangs down to my coat hem level. I tried this again this morning as I walked up a steep hill in the rain and when I got back to my care my legs were dry. I'm still in the testing stage, at the moment my pinny is 14" across, I suspect I need a piece about 20" to be properly effective, that is, it goes across my front from iliac crest to iliac crest. I also have a pair of Amsterdam thigh covers, (they are designed for bike riding) the material covers just the front of my thighs, from the top of my Rab gaiters, to well above the lower zip level of my coat. If I'm going to get wet its directly on my knees. At the moment I'm trying to take advantage of every rainy day to test out my ideas of how to keep dry from rain, I am not trying to solve perspiration from the inside. I hope to be in the Lakes soon, so if I'm lucky to experience rain whilst then I can test my gear in real conditions properly.