I like the 80p gloves, they look a good idea, with a cheap pair of Thinsulate type gloves underneath they I'm sure would be very useful. I'm going to Decathlon tomorrow, I'll have a look at their waterproof mittens whilst I'm there. Although I use a pair of an old Goretex jacket sleeves to keep my hands dry when hiking, as described earlier, still useful to have a cheap pair of 'waterproof' gloves in the car.