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Title: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: rural roamer on 10:18:26, 24/06/17
For those of you who follow the winter one, the new summer versions have started this morning. 
http://live.opentracking.co.uk/spinefusion17/
And as an added bonus, Pavel Paloncey is attempting to beat the fastest known time for the Pennine way.  (he was originally going to attempt this last summer when we were walking it, but he had to pull out due to illness).

Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 10:53:02, 24/06/17
 Thanks for that.I wasn't aware that Pavel was running so it should certainly make things more interesting.Time to watch out for is the half way point at High Birk hat.Cudahy,when he became the first person to break 3 days in 1984,reached this point in around 35 hours.Its going to be a tall order breaking Mike Hartley's 1988 record,2 days 17 hours,but Pavel seems to be going some and should reach the marathon point at Standedge (26 miles) in under 3 hours. :o
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: bricam2096 on 19:39:48, 24/06/17
Did Pavel miss out the Hebden checkpoint? His tracking suggests so  :-\
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 19:54:23, 24/06/17
Did Pavel miss out the Hebden checkpoint? His tracking suggests so  :-\

 He is making his record attempt alongside this new race.His main objective is to break the PW record and the race diversion to CP1 isn't part of the PW.Apparently he started 3 hours ahead of the field so he didn't run a sub three hour marathon on the first leg. ;)
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: bricam2096 on 19:56:33, 24/06/17
Was just thinking after I posted that detours to checkpoints aren't on the PW so why detour if you want to beat the record?

So, he's not actually in the race then? I had wondered why he was so far ahead so soon  :D
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 23:28:26, 24/06/17
 Pav is near Horton,92 miles in 18.5 hrs. If he keeps this pace up he should be home in around 2 days 5 hours and knock 12 hours off the record.Well at least in theory......
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 11:33:21, 25/06/17
 Pav has reached the halfway point in a few minutes over 30hrs.Cudahy,the only person who has gone N-S in under 3 days,reached this point in 35 hours and increased his pace during the second half of the run.He has got to finish at approx 22.30hrs Monday evening to break the record.Provided he dosen't hit trouble he should finish well inside Mike Hartley's time.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: rural roamer on 15:25:03, 25/06/17
Just checked Pavel's progress and he's currently between Low and High Force.  We took about 11 days to walk there,amazing to think someone can get that far in under 2! Which brings me round to something I was wondering. Why is he attempting the record at a weekend? Surely it would be less busy during the week? Won't there be lots of Sunday afternoon walkers out there and/ or ramblers groups? Especially if the weather is ok. I know we have sometimes caught a group of slow walkers up and they seem to take some time to realise you would actually like to pass them, that could add vital minutes to the record attempt. I see he was going up Pen y Ghent at night so at least he avoided the 3 peaks hordes!
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 16:54:48, 25/06/17
 I should imagine the weekend was the best time to start as more pacers and helpers are available.It also conicided with the start of the Fission race and would allow more publicity for his sponsors.

 Other walkers shouldn't be a problem,other than in Teesdale and parts of Hadrian's Wall.

 His time is very impressive,far better than I expected,and if he keeps going at this pace he might beat the record.Still a long way to go though and Joss Naylor slowed during the final 10 miles on his N-S attempt in 1973 and failed to break the three day barrier.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: sussamb on 21:06:56, 25/06/17
Pav seems slow on the approach to Knock Old Man, it's quite a slog up there so I guess he's taking it easy, but hope that's all it is.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: bricam2096 on 21:29:09, 25/06/17
Pav seems slow on the approach to Knock Old Man, it's quite a slog up there so I guess he's taking it easy, but hope that's all it is.

He's probably just getting excited by now about the Corpse Road down to Garrigill coming up, probably in the dark  :D
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: sussamb on 21:56:03, 25/06/17
You're probably right  ;D
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 23:21:22, 25/06/17
 Near Gregs Hut now.Probably a couple of hours away from Alston and might even reach the 200 mile point inside of 48 hours.He has got to average over 4.4 mph to break the record.Looks like things are starting to slip away as he is .07 mph behind Mike's schedule.

 It was nice to see Mike Hartley (the current record holder) come out on the course to wish Pavel luck. O0
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: forest view on 05:01:46, 26/06/17
Exactly 2 days and nights and still ploughing on.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: sussamb on 07:21:49, 26/06/17
Weather forecast not looking too good ... Going to be wet!
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 08:41:23, 26/06/17
Looks like its over.He has got to average over 5.5 mph to beat the record.His average over the last 30 miles has been closer to 3mph.I am sure he will finish but he is unlikely to beat either Mike Hartley's or Mike Cudahy's times but might just dip under three days.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 12:48:02, 26/06/17
 It would appear that Pavel has retired in Greenhead.Great effort though and he went far better than expected. O0
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: rural roamer on 15:32:23, 26/06/17
Yes,confirmation here
https://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2017/06/26/runner-pavel-paloncy-aborts-pennine-way-attempt-as-record-stretches-beyond-reach
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 23:38:40, 27/06/17
 The leader,Richard Lendon,has retired from the race due to hypothermia.Just shows what the PW is like in summer.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: sussamb on 07:17:54, 28/06/17
Yep, got mild hypothermia on the Cheviots when I did it in June 2012  :)


Weathers not been in their favour over the last few days.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 19:18:07, 28/06/17
 Looks like Franz Meiser (Germany) will win the race as he has a 21 mile lead at Chew Green.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: rural roamer on 08:07:26, 29/06/17
Expected him to have finished overnight but unfortunately he had to retire over the Cheviots.  Brutal conditions apparently, he was evacuated by mountain rescue at Cocklawfoot.  Must be gutted that he was so close to the finish.
We were walkng PW this time last year and had some pretty bad weather but sounds like it's even worse.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: sussamb on 09:45:32, 29/06/17
Great shame but yep, weather up there can be brutal  O0
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 10:03:01, 29/06/17
 Yes,it can be brutal up there at this time of the year.I have worn a Buffalo shirt in the Cheviots in these type of conditions (summer) and even then its been a struggle to keep warm.A lot of this ultra running lightweight clothing is completely inadequate in these conditions.

 Gary Morrision has a bit of a lead,around a mile.I doubt if the wet weather will bother him as he is a deep sea diver!
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: sussamb on 10:17:17, 29/06/17
But I bet he's not wearing a heated dry suit!!
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: harland on 13:24:47, 29/06/17
It looks like number 215 Raj Mahapatra has called it a day at the road before Padon Hill.  So near yet so far for quite a few for the "Summer!!" Spine. :(
Just thought there may be a diversion to join up again in the Redesdale Forest.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 13:44:31, 29/06/17
It looks like number 215 Raj Mahapatra has called it a day at the road before Padon Hill.  So near yet so far for quite a few for the "Summer!!" Spine. :(
Just thought there may be a diversion to join up again in the Redesdale Forest.  Fingers crossed.

 They might have diverted the route due to the bad conditions on Brownrigg Head.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: sussamb on 13:54:12, 29/06/17
Amazingly it was pretty dry when I went through a few weeks ago  :)
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: harland on 13:56:47, 29/06/17
It looks as though he is still in the race, I bet he was pleased to walk along the road for a while!
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: sussamb on 14:07:46, 29/06/17
Gary Morrision has a bit of a lead,around a mile.I doubt if the wet weather will bother him as he is a deep sea diver!

Seems to have stopped or there's an issue with his tracker, two others well ahead of him now and almost at Hen Hole hut.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: harland on 14:09:59, 29/06/17
Seems to have stopped or there's an issue with his tracker, two others well ahead of him now and almost at Hen Hole hut.
I think he stopped at Hut 1 for quite a while for a rest/sleep/dry/food/feet.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: harland on 14:11:24, 29/06/17
Raj is back on PW track again.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: harland on 16:38:55, 29/06/17
They might have diverted the route due to the bad conditions on Brownrigg Head.
Others are now going the same way so, as you mentioned, there must be bad conditions on Brownrigg Head.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: harland on 17:11:05, 29/06/17
Congratulations to the first two to finish.  Perhaps they will try the winter one when the conditions won't be as bad  ;) - didn't mean it, I know that is a lot harder.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: tonyk on 19:11:46, 29/06/17
 A rather dramatic race with a sprint finish.Gary Morrison looks secure in third place despite the  two runners behind him closing in fast.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: forest view on 01:38:13, 30/06/17
It looks like Charl & Raj are`` doing the Cheviot`` I wonder if some of the rescue team in the second hut will come to get them back on track.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: forest view on 01:48:05, 30/06/17
No they have thought better of it and have come back, very sensible chaps save that for a day walk.
Title: Re: Summer "Spine" race
Post by: Slogger on 20:29:48, 10/07/17
I was volunteering for the early days of the races. Times were of course faster on average than during the Winter, due to the extra daylight hours and much lighter pack weight. Still there were some testing times during bad weather and racers with commanding leads failing to finish, whilst most were not racing but as usual just happy to finish. Pavel went very well to and beyond halfway, but his fast pace could not be maintained so retired af Greenhead, after the realisation that the record was out of reach.
I think that the Summer Spine Flare (Edale to Hawes) in particular will take off massively, they have over 200 showing an interest already for the 2018 race.