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Steve922

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Down sleeping bag advice please?
« on: 23:11:29, 23/05/18 »
     In preparing for my multi-day hiking adventure, I'm looking for a new sleeping bag. My old one is very good but its heavy at just over 2kg and being synthetic (Hollowfibre) its rather bulky. Weight is important to me, I'm trying to get under 10kg including food.
    I've been looking at the 1050g Rab 500 http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/rab-ascent-500-sleeping-bag-p292426 but after reading various reviews I'm not sure if it will be warm enough for me so perhaps the 1250g Rab 700 http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/rab-ascent-700-sleeping-bag-p292434 currently running at 153 with all the discounts, might be a better choice?
    This is a major purchase for me, because I'm a tightwad who doesn't really mind spending the money but am quite obsessed with value.
    I'd be much appreciative of any input; good, bad or alternative. Its main use will be WHW somewhere mid-September/early-October after a fair bit of shorter British-summer hiking.
   What does the panel think?

alan de enfield

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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #1 on: 23:37:50, 23/05/18 »



     In preparing for my multi-day hiking adventure, I'm looking for a new sleeping bag. My old one is very good but its heavy at just over 2kg and being synthetic (Hollowfibre) its rather bulky. Weight is important to me, I'm trying to get under 10kg including food.
    I've been looking at the 1050g Rab 500 http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/rab-ascent-500-sleeping-bag-p292426 but after reading various reviews I'm not sure if it will be warm enough for me so perhaps the 1250g Rab 700 http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/rab-ascent-700-sleeping-bag-p292434 currently running at 153 with all the discounts, might be a better choice?
    This is a major purchase for me, because I'm a tightwad who doesn't really mind spending the money but am quite obsessed with value.
    I'd be much appreciative of any input; good, bad or alternative. Its main use will be WHW somewhere mid-September/early-October after a fair bit of shorter British-summer hiking.
   What does the panel think?


Have you considered this :


http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/oex-helios-ev-hydrodown-300-sleeping-bag-p397795


Only 750g and compresses down to almost nothing. Comfortably warm in -3 degrees and 'extreme' of -19 degrees.
Very happy with mine.


Bought after reading 100s of reviews on various bags, this one had the best reviews and they turned out to be true.


With the current special price offer its just about 100 at Go Outdoors
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Owen

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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #2 on: 10:26:11, 24/05/18 »
I have a Ran Ascent 300 and a 500. The 500 is very warm I only use it when it's freezing or lower, far too hot for typical summer nights out in Scotland. The 300 is better for 3 seasons use. Expensive but you have to pay for quality. The 500 is 1050g the 300 is 812g.

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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #3 on: 10:38:26, 24/05/18 »
>>>Have you considered this : http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/oex-helios-ev-hydrodown-300-sleeping-bag-p397795

This looks really interesting Alan, thanks.  No, I hadn't considered this one. It looks great value and I love both the weight and price!  But I'm really bothered if it will be warm enough for me.
   Any other views on this one (the OEX 300 from GO)  ?

Steve922

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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #4 on: 10:41:35, 24/05/18 »
I never considered the Rab Ascent 300 either Owen. I've seen a review or two (I've read a lot!) on the Ascent 500 saying they were cold and I think this has coloured my vision.
   After these replies, I'm thinking the 700 might be overkill and the 500 adequate, maybe a 300 would be good enough? I'm really attracted partly by the price but mainly by the lower weight.
   So many choices to make!  :-)

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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #5 on: 11:42:24, 24/05/18 »
I use a Cumulus (Poland) Down sleeping quilt which I imported from Slovenia. Took about 5 days and cost about 200. I believe it works at its best when married to a proper mattress, in my case a Thermarest NeoAir, with a fitted sheet, also from Thermarest. On warm nights its great, I just use it like my home quilt, when hot I just throw it off me. In the colder months keeping warm requires a bit of a knack, either to have 2 or 3, 12"elasticated ties, secured to little loops to pull the sides together and under me, or to wear long johns, possibly socks and an upper body warm jacket. I tend to use the second option most. I use a compression stuff sack, covered with another waterproof stuffsack and my quilt stuffs down to a really small size. Its also rather light in weight. I have never let it get wet, I have read, that once wet, down products become pretty useless until they dry out again. I've had my product for over three years now, still looks as good as new and only one or two feathers have ever poked through. I was it each year, can take a week to dry but the wait is worth it. From my experience I think I would always buy a down product (but not a down jacket) because of its light weight and compressibility mainly and it keeps me warm as well.

Having looked through various models recently if I bought again I believe I would go for the 'Enlightened Equipment Revelation 20', looks good but importing it from the USA?

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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #6 on: 19:18:24, 24/05/18 »
I've got the Rab Ascent 500 Steve and found it a great bag. I've been out down to freezing in it and been toastie but I do sleep hot. In the summer I unzip it and use it like a quilt. I also like it because it is quite a loose mummy fit and has quite a big foot area, something I like. Cant remember what I payed but dont forget to price match with GO Outdoors.


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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #7 on: 09:59:01, 25/05/18 »
For me, something like the 700 would be too hot for the majority of the year. I use a cheap light bag for the summer and only really use the Cumulus bag after Sept. I can't have one bag for the whole year.

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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #8 on: 10:44:27, 25/05/18 »
I can't have one bag for the whole year.

I can!
I could only afford one bag and it had to be the warmest. Mine is rated as -3 comfort, -10 limit and -28 extreme.
Baselayers and socks are worn when it's cold, maybe more if it's really cold.
Then minus the socks, minus the bottoms and minus the top progressively according to the temperature.
When it's warm weather I have 60cm unzipped at the foot and maybe more the top, and if it's really hot I don't zip it up at all.

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Re: Down sleeping bag advice please?
« Reply #9 on: 08:11:27, 26/05/18 »
A bag with a T-lim of +1c should be enough for you, you can you a wool underwear set for sleeping clothes with backup purpose as extra layer in cold weather.