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WhitstableDave

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We've just returned from a week's holiday in the Peak District... with our two daughters, two sons-in-law, two grandsons and two granddaughters!  :)

We had an absolutely wonderful time. The weather was perfect, which allowed us all to have dinner together sitting outside every evening and we all went on visits together every day but one. We went to Chatsworth, Ladybower Reservoir, Dovedale, Matlock and the Heights of Abraham, and my wife and I did several trail runs in the forests surrounding the holiday park while the others were getting themselves sorted for the day. We also did one significant adventure on our own, with which I'll start my report...   

Our plan was to do a circuit from Castleton that would involve the sort of elevation gain that's hard to come by in North Kent. And we wanted to do it at a reasonably fast pace, which meant gentle jogging on the flat, running down any hills and walking briskly up any inclines.

I'd bought two books of Peak District walks for a holiday here two years ago: Day Walks in the Peak District - the 'classic' and 'new' circular routes editions - and I joined Cave Dale & the Great Ridge from one book with Lord's Seat & Eldon Hill from the other to make a 15 mile circuit with lots of hills!

We parked in Castleton - arriving very early because we'd learned quickly that the Peak District was heaving with people - and set off up Cave Dale and along the Limestone Way path. Although the day would become warm later, it was a very cold start! We crested Eldon Hill and ran down across misty fields to join the Pennine Bridleway. Then it was a long uphill slog to Lord's Seat, which turned out to be the first of five distinct peaks (or perhaps simply high points) on the Great Ridge.

I have to admit that I didn't really know what to expect of the Great Ridge - I sort of assumed we'd go steadily uphill to Mam Tor, then steadily downhill to the far end. But it turned out to be very undulating with some quite challenging ups followed by wonderfully runnable downs for well over four miles. And the views were always spectacular!

From the final peak - Lose Hill - we descended steeply across farmland into the village of Hope and from there we followed a river back to Castleton. We covered the distance of just over 15 miles in 4 hrs 19 mins, and the total elevation gain was 2,700 ft.



Soon after leaving Castleton, we were heading up Cave Dale on a very rocky path that was almost a stream. On the ridge behind us, we could see Peveril Castle. We loved this spectacular gorge and the climb helped us to forget the cold!



Much later, as we neared Lord's Seat, we could see what we guessed must be Mam Tor (directly above my wife's head) far away in the distance. By this time, the cold mist had cleared and it was pleasantly warm:



I think that must be Lord's Seat behind my wife as she takes a photo of me...



...standing on the next (unnamed?) rise - as I'm about to take the previous photo of her. Running and walking along this ridge was just magical:  :)



There was some quite 'technical' terrain just before we got to the very 'untechnical' paved steps to the summit of Mam Tor. That's me in the left-hand photo and until this point there was hardly anyone else around. And then we reached a road... and we were suddenly part of the biggest crowd we've ever seen on any summit (right - and no chance of a trig point photo!). From here all the way to Lose Hill, about two miles further on, we were among hundreds of people on the ridge - I exaggerate not!



Fortunately, most people didn't stray far from Mam Tor. We climbed the steep rough path to (what I'm guessing was) Back Tor (the next summit, but I'm happy to be corrected!) and found just a few dozen tougher souls sitting around admiring the amazing views...



Finally, we arrived at the final high point - Lose Hill - and only had to wait a couple of minutes for the view point marker to be clear for a photo:



The run down from Lose Hill was as good as it gets - steep, but not too steep, and grassy. We were enjoying it so much that we missed a turn and ended up going much further down than we'd planned. The point where we had to climb back up again can be clearly seen on the map - it was a bit embarrassing struggling back up the hill past a group of people we'd whizzed past just a few minutes before!

The hill levelled off as we reached farmland and we climbed a great many stiles and went through a good many gates - first into Hope and then along the riverside path back to Castleton.



We agreed that the Great Ridge circuit was easily one of the best routes we've ever done. It was varied, it provided fantastic views, and it was tremendous fun!  :)
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« Reply #1 on: 18:28:18, 05/06/21 »
That sounds like an idyllic family holiday Dave.
Your day in the hills looks great too.. ridge walking ( or running in your case  ;D  ) is probably my favourite type of walking ;)

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« Reply #2 on: 19:55:25, 05/06/21 »
Great photos.
That number of people is not unusual up there.

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« Reply #3 on: 20:50:42, 05/06/21 »
A grand run-and-walk circuit in very familiar territory  O0

I'm surprised there weren't a lot more people up there actually, some of the photos make it seem very quiet. I see the paving fiends have been hard at work on the ridge since we were last there  :( .


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« Reply #4 on: 21:17:46, 05/06/21 »
Oh yes that is fairly quiet for Mam Tor  ;D . I actually have a feeling I've done almost that exact same walk, starting from Castleton and following the ridge, and I remember the same shock of suddenly coming across the milling crowds. Fine walking country though, as long as you aren't looking for solitude!


I don't love the paving either but suppose it's thought necessary in such a popular spot...

WhitstableDave

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« Reply #5 on: 23:44:37, 05/06/21 »
Many thanks for the replies everyone.  :)

There were certainly a lot of people on Mam Tor and many more than the photos suggest; I guess it's natural to try to get as few people in our photos as possible. At the time, we thought there were many reasons for the crowds - it was half-term, and a Bank Holiday, and the first really nice weather for ages, and lockdown was easing, and people were holidaying in the UK, and it looked possible to drive almost to the summit!
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« Reply #6 on: 07:47:37, 06/06/21 »
Pleased you all had a great time in the Peaks, my stomping ground for over 50  years. There's something special about Cave Dale, I've visited many times but never tire of it. Thanks for the report.

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« Reply #7 on: 08:36:30, 06/06/21 »
Glad that you enjoyed the Peak District, Dave, and that looks like a good route along the ridge, despite the crowds.
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« Reply #8 on: 10:11:34, 06/06/21 »
It’s an area I’ve walked a lot in recent years...partly because the bus and train network that runs through the valley makes it easy to do linear walks, and just vary mileage based on how you feel on day...


Usually go on Thursdays when crowds usually sparse, though even then Mam Tor itself may be “busy”...it’s a favourite spot for hang gliding “brigade”.


And some Thursdays there’s a fair few Duke of Edinburgh youngsters venturing out...but other days I’ve done routes between Chinley and Edale when I’ve seen no one till getting to cafe at Edale.


And Dave...that’s an impressive time for 15 miles in that terrain.

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« Reply #9 on: 18:20:56, 06/06/21 »
Thanks for the replies everyone.  :)

We all love the Peak District and a wonderful time was had by all. Even the horrendous journey home, which included a 3 hour stop/crawl on the M25 in the rain, couldn't dampen our spirits!

I think I'll add another trip report if that's okay - just a short one...  ;)

When we were in the Peak District with the family two years ago, we spent a fantastic day at Dovedale. My wife and I did a shortish walk before meeting up with the others at the car park in Milldale. It was extremely hot that day and we got as far as Ilam Rock where we splashed about in the river and ate our picnic.

This year, I thought it would be nice to see the rest of Dovedale by starting at the other end at the big Dovedale car park. To avoid another 'there and back' along the river, I came up with a circular route whereby we'd head towards Ilam and arrive at Ilam Rock and then return along the river.

Our party included a baby and a two-year-old and the day before the visit I started to wonder if my route would be suitable for pushchairs - or even for carrying the little ones. It might be better simply to walk along the riverside path and back.

So my wife and I decided to do a reconnaissance! We got to Dovedale about an hour-and-a-half before the others were due to arrive and we set off to do the 5 mile circuit and get back to the car park before they arrived. What could go wrong?



The path certainly wasn't suitable for pushchairs, but for a time we thought that the carry-slings would be okay.





But when we started up Dunster Hill, we had to admit that this route wasn't going to work - it was a tough climb!

At this point, we probably should have returned the way we came. We'd taken more than half our planned time and not yet covered half the distance. However, we knew there was a big descent coming as we dropped down into Dovedale and then a level path by the river. We could surely run it and be back in plenty of time.



The ascent finally ended and we were quite excited by the prospect of a quick run down to the riverside path. Here's the gorge - it's going to be all downhill from here...



We missed the path down to the river at first because we couldn't believe it was the real thing. It was incredibly steep! But it was the one we needed, so down it we went. Far from being able to run down, we were barely able to walk down slowly. Much of the path was overgrown, but on this clear patch I was able to take a photo. There were other spots where it was necessary to sit and slide!:



When we reached the river we were relieved to discover that a bridge was nearby. We were already late and we still had 2 miles to go along the riverside path - so we ran it.

But when we reached the stepping stones, there was a problem. An unstoppable and apparently endless stream of people were crossing towards us and it was impossible to go against the flow! We'd never been here before, so we didn't know if there was another crossing further along. (It turned out that there was, but we didn't chance there not being one!) There was nothing for it... with water almost up to our knees, we waded across the very cold river to the left of the stepping stones (in the photo).



There was still about a quarter of a mile to go, which of course we ran to help dry ourselves a bit. We were almost 30 minutes late and along the way I was rehearsing a grovelling apology...

...only to find that the others had only just arrived. The horrendous Peak District traffic had saved us!  :)

The rest of the day went perfectly to (the revised) plan. We took the pushchairs, managed to cross the stepping stones with them, had a picnic at Ilam Rock and the children splashed about for a while in the river (the boys that is, who are a bit older than the girls).  :)
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« Reply #10 on: 16:56:35, 16/06/21 »
Blimey, that’s a good effort on your Great Ridge route. We’ve done truncated versions of that quite a few times, as we’re fairly close to the Peaks. We normally just do a shorter circuit from Castleton, though!


What I like about the ridge is that you get great views on both sides, which is actually a bit unusual in the Peaks, where it’s often moorland on one side.




Winnats Pass is a lovely spot (and a bit of a challenge if you take the “direct route” up rather than the path near the road).


Never done Dovedale, but need to.

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« Reply #11 on: 17:35:08, 16/06/21 »
Blimey, that’s a good effort on your Great Ridge route. We’ve done truncated versions of that quite a few times, as we’re fairly close to the Peaks. We normally just do a shorter circuit from Castleton, though!

What I like about the ridge is that you get great views on both sides, which is actually a bit unusual in the Peaks, where it’s often moorland on one side.

Winnats Pass is a lovely spot (and a bit of a challenge if you take the “direct route” up rather than the path near the road).

Never done Dovedale, but need to.

Thanks!  :) You're right about the views from the ridge of course - absolutely amazing!

I remember thinking that the northern side in particular looked extremely steep, but I've just found Winnats Pass on the map and that looks exciting too - perhaps next time...

We absolutely love Dovedale. Two years ago during Whitsun, the temperature there was in the 30s, yet there were far, far fewer people than this time around. As we left the car park in the late afternoon, we had to squeeze past a very long queue of cars still trying to get into the car park.
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« Reply #12 on: 22:16:25, 16/06/21 »
some great walks (runs) there pal. Done a seven mile circular from Castleton to Mam Tor , Back Tor and Loose hill a brilliant walk.
Done Dovedale walks before but we keep to the higher paths which are great , a lot more quieter .


love the pics by the way  O0

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« Reply #13 on: 07:51:31, 17/06/21 »
If you are into the slightly less busy White Peak dales then this scenic and varied  traverse makes a great outing. Start in Peak Forest, then head south:
Dam Dale
Hay Dale
Peter Dale
Monk’s Dale
Miller’s Dale
Monsal Dale
Great Shacklow Wood
Finish in Ashford-by-the-Water or Bakewell for a well-deserved pint or a Pudding (or both?)

Enjoy!

 

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