I'm sure the jacket that' mentioned is great but do we really get 'what we pay for', how do we go about fitting into this criteria? What sort of money are we talking about? I'm sure the words mean something but I'm never sure what? For me its the same as Brexit means Brexit, no deal is better than bad deal,etc, what is actually meant by these clumps of words? I've met lots of people over my hiking 'career' and I've heard lots of differing views, which I have compared and contrasted to my own ideas. Some people have found and they like some cheap products, some really cheap and consider them to be excellent, obviously some are not so good either or even downright rubbish. Likewise, some 'expensive' products may be good, may be excellant, but equally they can be poor in what they set out to achieve as well. For example 'expensive' boots, you would have thought if advertised as waterproof they would be waterproof and because of the money that you paid for them they would have resolved the most obvious problem of hiking, Blisters! In a capitalist world to get what we may want and to believe in what we have bought, we also, I believe have to acknowledge the power of marketing as well. It may look good in the photo, the presentation and in the description are first class but in use are they really really any good? Phones for example, some people are in love with brand names, go out and buy a £1000 Iphone but what can it do compared to one that maybe a quarter of the price? I don't know the answer, I freely admit this but all I have to go on is that most of my stuff has been replaced, both the cheap and the expensive. To date, 3 tents, (the 1st one leaked), 4 pairs of boots (2 pairs leaked) 2 sleeping bags, 3 rucksacks, 3 mattresses, 3 pairs of hiking sticks, baselayers, underwear (my M & S ones fell apart on one of my hikes) and so on. I have paid out what for me is top dollar and have kept my Paramo Alta 2, no complaints about this product (except its too heavy for the summer) and just love my Cumulus sleeping quilt and my Thermarest Neoair but some other stuff has really let me down. Last but not least, how does any of us judge how much to pay out to actually 'get what we pay for?' In my world I judge anything over £100 as in the expensive catagory, other might say its £200, perhaps £300 or more? Sorry to prattle on but sometimes I really like doing so.