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Title: Flickr
Post by: pleb on 10:48:25, 02/11/18
I hear if u are a free member of flickr, from next year you can only have 1000 pics, or start paying.
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: April on 12:05:27, 02/11/18
When it changed hands a few months ago I did wonder when this would happen. I hope it isn't too expensive  :(
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: bricam2096 on 12:14:29, 02/11/18
$49.99-per-year (no mention of what that will be in £££) Flickr is also offering a 30 percent discount off of the first year of Flickr Pro through November 30th.

More can be read at.... https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/1/18051950/flickr-1000-photo-limit-free-accounts-changes-pro-subscription-smugmug
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: April on 12:28:25, 02/11/18
Thanks Bricam  :)

I've just logged into my account and this news is on there too. I have almost 5,000 pics on there so I will have to pay if I want my trip reports to keep the pics. I always save all my pics to disc too so I won't lose the pics. I think I might have to bite the bullet and pay for it, I look back at my flickr albums for info now and again.

Just did a google of what $49.99 would be in £. £38.47. If you sign up before the end of Nov you get 30% off this amount so I make it £26.93 for a year. That isn't too bad.
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: pleb on 15:37:07, 02/11/18
More than I am paying! Am just short of 1000 pics........................think I know a way round it  ;)
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: vghikers on 17:20:14, 02/11/18
This sort of thing happens all the time with free cloud services, they are never a good idea. You are totally at their mercy, as many people found recently with another free photo host.

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...£38.47. If you sign up before the end of Nov you get 30% off this amount so I make it £26.93 for a year. That isn't too bad.

You could get your own domain and web hosting for a little more than that. You would have your own website and total control over it.
If you want a blog style site, webhost providers now typically offer Wordpress-style hosting directly, a platform with a choice of photo slideshow plugins.
Edit: minor clarification of terminology
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: pleb on 11:52:18, 06/11/18
They have emailed me to tell me the limit will soon be 1000 pics  :(
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: April on 12:22:07, 06/11/18
You could get your own domain and web hosting for a little more than that. You would have your own website and total control over it.

I've looked at that before but struggled a bit, I'm technologically challenged  ;D

I have a few weeks to decide what to do, I might have another look at having my own website. If I do go down this route I will lose 3/4 of my trip reports on this forum and on my flcikr account  :(
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: gunwharfman on 20:43:52, 06/11/18
Excuse me for being dense, but is it not possible to download your photos back to your PC?
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: Hillhiker1 on 20:48:49, 06/11/18
Excuse me for being dense, but is it not possible to download your photos back to your PC?

Yes it is.
What April's referring to is her Trip reports. The pictures within them aren't actually in the report. They're 'linked' to her pics in Flickr. If they get deleted in Flickr, they'll disappear from the reports too.
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: Rob Goes Walking on 21:57:08, 06/11/18
I have a few weeks to decide what to do, I might have another look at having my own website. If I do go down this route I will lose 3/4 of my trip reports on this forum and on my flcikr account  :(

EDIT: I left this here because I wrote it and bricam2096 replied but you might as well skip it because as bricam2096 pointed out below, you can't modify posts on here after a while!

Do you know any coders? When I was working as a coder I could have knocked you up a script that would alter your trip reports on the forum, download from your flickr and save your flickr photo descriptions to your new host in an hour or so. Sadly I've not written any code in the past 8 years and don't remember any languages anymore! If you're friends with a coder though they could probably do this for you it shouldn't take very long, it's a simple script. There used to be a site called RentACoder where you could hire coders cheaply to make things like this for you (some coders in foreign countries were happy to work for a few quid an hour) but it appears they have been acquired by these folks (https://www.freelancer.com/) and I've no idea how good they are now for personal projects. You could try posting it as a job but you'd need to give your forum, flickr and new host passwords to a stranger unless you specified that they make it run on your machine as part of the project, but that could put the price up.

Having said all that, you could just keep your Flickr account and not worry about having to set up your own host! I used to be a systems administrator as well as a coder and I personally chose to use Flickr for the sake of simplicity.
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: bricam2096 on 22:04:42, 06/11/18
I guess the problem would be that on her trip reports, she's linking to flickr photos and the trip report on here can't be changed so they will always point to the flickr site.  :(
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: Rob Goes Walking on 22:07:50, 06/11/18
I guess the problem would be that on her trip reports, she's linking to flickr photos and the trip report on here can't be changed so they will always point to the flickr site.  :(

Oh right, I forgot you couldn't modify your posts after a while on here. Doh!
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: April on 08:45:03, 07/11/18
is it not possible to download your photos back to your PC?

I already have all my pics saved on disc, I do this as well as saving them to flickr. As Hillhiker1 and Bricam mention it is the trip reports on here that will lose their pics if I don't subscribe to Flickrpro.

you could just keep your Flickr account and not worry about having to set up your own host! I used to be a systems administrator as well as a coder and I personally chose to use Flickr for the sake of simplicity.

I think I will be paying the sub for flickr, it is the easiest option and it means the trip reports on here will remain as they are. Thanks for the advice on the tech stuff though  :)
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: fernman on 08:49:51, 07/11/18
The good news: From January you won't need a Yahoo account for Flickr. I bet that'll be a relief for some people!
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: gunwharfman on 09:48:56, 07/11/18
Does this Flickr issue raise a problem with the internet generally? Is it a good idea to store anything on line? I don't think I would choose to do it, whether it be documents or photos or anything else really. The other possible problem is electricity supply! Almost everything we rely on these days relies on electricity, even to get our gas supply. My old Mum, as a young woman in WW2, always warned us that in the event of a new countrywide emergency most of the population of the UK will face major difficuluties, no heat for a start, because most houses today depends on electricity for their central heating. After watching the Syrian war unfold over the last few years its easy for me to tell myself, if it can happen there, a similar conflict could possibly happen here. Without electricity......!!!

To date I've bought two apps, both maps, I am very reluctant to buy anything else. In todays capitalist world it suggests to me that everything is built on sand, businesses come and go, takeovers and so on, what can we rely on? It used to be that one selling point for some firms, to help us feel confident about the future, was that they had been in existance for 200 years or more, that although life around us would change they wouldn't. So for me, the idea that the internet world I know today will be the same reliable internet world in 20 years time is, in my view, not possible. So I tell myself, putting something important on the internet is potentially putting me in peril at some later date!

I'm not suggesting that we go back to paper but as a complete amatuer with regard to PCs, I keep all my photos/documents and so on on 2 separate hard disks and I make hard copies of the ones I consider important. I keep nothing on my PC, only the programmes I use.
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: ninthace on 10:02:11, 07/11/18
Cheer up, it ain’t that bad!
Today’s risks are just high tech versions of the old ones. If you kept everything in hard copy under the matresss you could be robbed or your house could burn down.  At least with the internet you can put your eggs in more than one basket. What is you plan against the loss of your two hard disks to fire or burglary or obsolescence?
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: fernman on 16:29:26, 07/11/18
What is you plan against the loss of your two hard disks to fire or burglary or obsolescence?

Keep them in the shed at the bottom of the garden?

In GWM's gloom and doom scenario, I think most users of this site would have far greater chance of coping than a large proportion of the general populace, as we've all got suitable warm and weatherproof clothing, know how to find shelter, some of us additionaly have sleeping equipmemnt suitable for most conditions, and I imagine most of us know how to make a fire. Mind you, I once spent a pretty miserable four days indoors dressed in baselayers, pile jacket and fleece hat when the central heating broke down, while the cat looked ready to find another home.
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: gunwharfman on 16:55:48, 08/11/18
My external hard disks I believe are well hidden. I may be a bit simplistic in my PC knowledge but I just feel that if someone stole my PC I wouldn't lose anthing, all of my programmes can be replaced easily and because I use Last Pass all of my sites and passwords are safe as well.

Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: Rob Goes Walking on 17:32:51, 08/11/18
My external hard disks I believe are well hidden. I may be a bit simplistic in my PC knowledge but I just feel that if someone stole my PC I wouldn't lose anthing, all of my programmes can be replaced easily and because I use Last Pass all of my sites and passwords are safe as well.

If you stored your files in the cloud and something happened to your PC you could just download them from the cloud again. People usually keep a local copy of their data too. It's unlikely something would happen to the cloud storage and something would happen to your PC on the same day. If you use LastPass, all your passwords are stored online, you're relying on online storage already. Relying on multiple hard drives is probably good enough (although if you store them in the same building as your PC, like ninthace says your vulnerable to fire and possibly theft even if you've hidden them well) but storing your files online would add an additional layer of protection not make it less protected. If a cloud storage facility goes down you can just upload your files again to a new storage facility from your local copy.

The super, super prepared thing to do is store them on hard disks AND online. Personally I don't have anything important enough to worry that much about but if you do maybe you should think about it.

As for the electricity supply going down, your PC and backups would be useless without power so you'd only have your hard copies. I don't have anything important enough to worry about in the event of such an infrastructure failure but if the Russians decide to bomb us you'll be glad you made those hard copies :)
Title: Re: Flickr
Post by: Glyno on 18:10:13, 08/11/18
I store all my photos on two external hard discs. One is in front of me on a shelf above my monitor, the other is on a shelf a few metres behind where I'm sitting. In the event of my house catching fire, I'll have more important things to be worried about.