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Title: Wild Camping
Post by: daniel22 on 23:02:51, 01/07/20
Hi everyone,
A friend and I are hoping to do a walk over a couple of days and camp out. I was googling wild camping and I saw it said there aren’t many places in the UK you are allowed to wild camp? Is this the case?


We’d be looking in the north east, around Durham kind of way. Preferably somewhere foresty - I like being under the tress :) And where I wouldn’t hear cars or other modern civilisation-type noise. Does anyone have any suggestions? I’d appreciate any recommendations!


In terms of the walk, I was thinking nothing majorly strenuous since I’m relatively new at this. Maybe 10 miles a day to make it 20 miles total?


Thanks all :)
Daniel
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 13:30:36, 02/07/20
When I hike and if I'm in the wrong place at the end of the day, if I have to wild camp I will do it, law or no law. My favoured way of doing it is to be discrete, I like to have something at my back like a rock, or a fence if in a field, (I prefer empty fields) and do tend to look at the right-angled corners of fields if that choice exists. I've sometimes camped in the angle between a wall or fence if an open five bar gate has been jammed open and it's obvious that it's never closed. I'm also partial to sleeping on wooden footbridges in bad weather, (did this twice on the Two Moors Way) and on odd bits of farm equipment, flatbed trailers are pretty good. I'm not a wood camping fan, neither am I a river bank camper. I made the mistake of doing this once (at Alston) and in the morning I was overwhelmed with millions of biting little flies!
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: daniel22 on 13:35:57, 02/07/20
Thanks gunwharfman...some tips there I'd not have considered! I will stay away from the water, the midgies usually swarm me at the best of times haha.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: vghikers on 14:59:37, 02/07/20
Quote
...it said there aren’t many places in the UK you are allowed to wild camp? Is this the case?

Yes, but in practice it's not really the right question. You need to be aware of the legal position just in case of course, but...
Very briefly, in mountainous or remote areas it's no problem at all, in other areas you need to be a bit more careful. In all cases leave no trace of your presence.

Take a look at the many backpacks on our site, most are in high remote territory but we have also wild camped low level routes as well, even trails like the Ridgeway in the south.
There is plenty of wild country up there in the north-east, we had some good nights there.

Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: daniel22 on 21:00:39, 02/07/20
Thanks vghikers. So I’m assuming when you are on someone land, like farmland, best not to set up. I was hoping to be very remote.

Definitely leave no trace. Why do people dump their rubbish everywhere?!??
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: richardh1905 on 21:28:33, 02/07/20
Hi Daniel - Hamsterley Forest is not that far west of Durham, but is not really big enough to accommodate a 20 mile walk.

I would look northwards - if you are determined to be in amongst the trees then surely Kielder beckons - miles upon miles of easy forest roads , trees by the million and I'm sure plenty of decent hidden places to camp. Midges might be a problem, though, and the Forestry Commission might take a dim view.

Better in my opinion would be to head towards the Cheviot, I'm sure that you could string a good route together there, and away from the Pennine Way and The Cheviot itself, it is likely to be very quiet. I've not walked there myself (on my 'to do in the near future' list, but the country to the south looks particularly interesting, some steep convoluted river valleys dissecting the uplands.

Finally, on the subject of wild camping:

Arrive late,
Leave early,
Be discreet,
Leave nothing


PS - just over the border in Scotland it is legal to wild camp (in non Covid times, that is)
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: richardh1905 on 21:43:24, 02/07/20
Also, Harwood Forest and the Simonside hills SW of Rothbury.


April wrote a trip report - https://www.walkingforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=39948.0
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: daniel22 on 21:49:58, 02/07/20
Thanks Richard, Kielder certainly looks appealing! Couple of hours drive but would be worth it!
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: ninthace on 22:46:28, 02/07/20
Hi Daniel - Hamsterley Forest is not that far west of Durham, but is not really big enough to accommodate a 20 mile walk.

I would look northwards - if you are determined to be in amongst the trees then surely Kielder beckons - miles upon miles of easy forest roads , trees by the million and I'm sure plenty of decent hidden places to camp. Midges might be a problem, though, and the Forestry Commission might take a dim view.

Better in my opinion would be to head towards the Cheviot, I'm sure that you could string a good route together there, and away from the Pennine Way and The Cheviot itself, it is likely to be very quiet. I've not walked there myself (on my 'to do in the near future' list, but the country to the south looks particularly interesting, some steep convoluted river valleys dissecting the uplands.

Finally, on the subject of wild camping:

Arrive late,
Leave early,
Be discreet,
Leave nothing


PS - just over the border in Scotland it is legal to wild camp (in non Covid times, that is)
Actually Hamsterley Forest and the moors nearby can accommodate a 20 mile walk.  Here is one based on sections 3 or 4 walks I have done knitted together.  There is a little bit of road work and the short section of footpath from NY 98237 31329 (Candlesieve Sike) and NY 97652 30925 (Wire Gill) is a figment of the map makers imagination, but the footpath marked just to S passing by spot ht 497 might exist as an alternative.  Great Eggles Hope would be a good place for a wild camp - there are even some buildings for a lee.
https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/route/5400861/Hamsterley-Forest-20-mile-loop (https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/route/5400861/Hamsterley-Forest-20-mile-loop)
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: richardh1905 on 07:17:13, 03/07/20
You obviously know the area better than I, ninthace. :)
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: WILDWALKINGUK on 08:04:55, 03/07/20
Wild camping definitely gives you more freedom, as you are not aiming for accommodation each night. It has to be done with respect and be as discreet as possible though. Leave absolutely no trace, camp late and leave early, absolutely no camp fire or noise, and you should be OK. You might want to have a look at my 11 wild camping rules: https://wildwalkinguk.com/2019/06/18/my-11-wild-camping-rules/ (https://wildwalkinguk.com/2019/06/18/my-11-wild-camping-rules/)
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: daniel22 on 00:24:07, 04/07/20
Thanks wildwalkinguk :) i will take a look now!
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 09:16:17, 04/07/20
Wild camping has made the news!

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/the-dos-and-donts-of-wild-camping-from-finding-a-legal-spot-to-burying-your-poo_uk_5efd9607c5b6ca9709196da8
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: RockPenguin on 21:46:48, 06/07/20
Hi all. I'm hoping to do a high camp near Pillar in the lakes followed by a few tops around Great Gable the following day. Does anyone know of a layby on or near the Honister Pass that I can start out from? Or a car park offering overnight parking?


I havent hiked/wild camped much in the lakes to be honest, my usual over-nighters tend to be in  Wales and the NW Highlands.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: karl h on 22:32:30, 06/07/20
Hi all. I'm hoping to do a high camp near Pillar in the lakes followed by a few tops around Great Gable the following day. Does anyone know of a layby on or near the Honister Pass that I can start out from? Or a car park offering overnight parking?


I havent hiked/wild camped much in the lakes to be honest, my usual over-nighters tend to be in  Wales and the NW Highlands.


I'm not 100% sure but I dont think you can park overnight at the slate mine or the Youth hostel but you could ring to check. There is a small parking area just down the road on the Borrowdale side.


(http://www.karlswalks.co.uk/hcp.jpg)
It's not much of a walk back up the hill to the top of the pass.
Hope you have a great time  O0
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 11:07:00, 07/07/20
When I've taken my car I never park and camp in isolated places overnight, just bring attention to yourself. I always park in 'plain sight' on housing estates, for example, been to Keswick a few times and have had no problem finding a spot. I've found the Streetmap system (the app Windy) the most useful for this, unlike OS maps the streets I believe are more clearly displayed and they are named as well.

In the morning I just get into the driver's seat and drive to somewhere else to organise myself.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: RockPenguin on 12:49:34, 07/07/20
Many thanks for the info Karl. I've checked and as you say, there is no overnight parking at the YH or Slate Mine. However, the small parking spot you posted looks great, I reckon you'd have to arrive pretty early (or late) to guarantee a space though. Definitely going to give it a shot. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: RockPenguin on 12:56:22, 07/07/20
When I've taken my car I never park and camp in isolated places overnight, just bring attention to yourself. I always park in 'plain sight' on housing estates, for example, been to Keswick a few times and have had no problem finding a spot. I've found the Streetmap system (the app Windy) the most useful for this, unlike OS maps the streets I believe are more clearly displayed and they are named as well.


In the morning I just get into the driver's seat and drive to somewhere else to organise myself.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: RockPenguin on 12:58:26, 07/07/20



Cheers gunwharfman....


Fair comment, the fells around Pillar and the Gables are pretty isolated though so an isolated overnight park seems unavoidable in this case. Unless you know of a plain sight location within reasonable distance to these fells?
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 14:22:55, 07/07/20
For the past couple of years, I've climbed to the top of Great Gable on November 11th for the WW1 commemorations. I've driven up both times and parked and camped at Chapel House Farm, at Rosthraite, only £6 a night, a bit rough and ready, just a field adjacent to the road, but I like it. Good sized car park. Two good pubs and the YHA hostel are all within easy walking distance. It's also next door to the Coast to Coast and Cumbria Way walks as well. Keswick not far either if you have a car.

Great Gabel is fairly near, a 'good enough,' scenic and easy walk to its base.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: RockPenguin on 16:39:03, 07/07/20
Thanks for the info gunwharfman. £6 for the night seems very reasonable indeed and obviously my car would be more secure parked there overnight, even if I didn't actually pitch a tent. Any idea whet time you need to vacate the by on the following day?
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 19:59:18, 07/07/20
When I stayed there I spoke to the owner and said I didn't know what time I could get back to the site he said "no problem stay as long as you like." I left the site at about 4.00 pm in the afternoon. Mind you, because it was November I was the only person there. Most places I've stayed at suggest between 12.00 and 2.00 pm but if you think you want to stay later in the day I can only suggest you have a word with the owner first.

I camped two nights, slept in my tent night one, but it was so cold on night two I grabbed my mattress, etc, and slept in my car.

Re: The two drinking places, both good. From the field, though the farmer's yard, turn right and onto the pub, both times I visited it was packed. They had also put their food prices up from the previous year. The other place, out of the site onto the road, turn right and keep straight on to the pub/hotel in the village. I enjoyed the food. Again packed. Their selling point is chips made from real 'fat,' is it called dripping, I'm not very knowledgable about such things? I don't eat meat and their products but the tourists around me seemed to love them. Both pubs sell good beer.

I don't think I've eaten at the YHA? Lots of beer but my memory doesn't recall food?
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: richardh1905 on 20:10:16, 07/07/20
There's also Wasdale Head. A longer drive to get there, and a bigger ascent, but the campsite opposite the pub is cheap, and there's plenty of free parking 1/4 of a mile away if you don't want to camp. Not secure but the very remoteness of the valley is reassuring.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: barewirewalker on 11:59:11, 08/07/20
When I did my X Wales walks I intended to camp high to avoid the fields of lowland farming. I made better time on one day and overran my intended overnight spot.
This has given me some ideas I should have planned for. Nowadays walking mostly in farmland, I still, instinctively size up possible emergency overnight stays. This advice is strictly for the 'camp late/strike early' discipline.

Thanks vghikers. So I’m assuming when you are on someone land, like farmland, best not to set up. I was hoping to be very remote.

Definitely leave no trace. Why do people dump their rubbish everywhere?!??
Many farmers leave wide field margins, ostensibly for conservation, more for collecting additional value on Single Farm Supplement payments. These are usually fully subscribed to by the large estates and are plainly visible on google earth. A bit of pre-planning and good judgement of terrain should give you some ideal spots. Another tip is to seek local advice; indirectly questioning local householders can be a rich source of info. As a general rule large land owners are not overly popular nor are their game keepers.
Bear in mind that the majority of 'farm workers' are now more likely to be self employed, if not independent contractors. Walkers usually manage to 'get up their nose' more because they do not stop and take time to talk, but scuttle by avoiding eye contact. This is not a countryman's way, meet eye contact give a hand salute and be willing to talk and it is surprising what you may learn. I have been told of great places to walk that are off the righteous way, of hidden beauty spots and amazing places to explore, (often with advice on who to duck and dive away from)

If you are walking as a pair then you may have 4 walking poles, lots of reduntant electric fence wire lying around the countryside a few meters, enough for two strands, can make a psueudo electric fence around your tent, especially combines with GWM tips of using gates.Discreet use of sheep hurdles, borrowing if replaced 'as was', provided they are not in use will never be known, provided you are up and away before all others. I prefer to breakfast at least 2 miles from my wild camp. (fill a flask, last thing, with hot water or drink, pack - coffee - and away)

During an emergency hitch hike between the Lakes and Snowdonia, I did a quick hop over a wall on the N.Wales coast road in the early hours. Landed in some thick dark bushes, blundered around a bit and found a flat bit of grass, up with the mountain tent and into the pit, tout de suite. Morning light revealed Rhododendron bushes either side of a perfectly mown square of grass. I was in the middle of a rather up market Caravan site. In a flash my pack was packed, my immediate flight arrested by a call from one of the caravans, where a couple were sitting at a table enjoying an early al fresco breakfast. They pointed to a third chair. Whilst I was enjoying a full English, regaling my generous hosts with mountaineering exploits, the site factotum was scratching his head over a small depressed square of grass on one of his expensive lets, much to our combined amusement.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: RockPenguin on 06:46:08, 12/07/20
Thank you everyone who shared advice on overnight parking options for my camp on the fells around Great Gable etc. I opted for the small, free parking spot on the Honister Pass just below the YH and Slate Mine. Camp was just below Pillar overlooking Wasdale and toward Scafel and Scafell Pike.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: richardh1905 on 07:36:38, 12/07/20
Thank you everyone who shared advice on overnight parking options for my camp on the fells around Great Gable etc. I opted for the small, free parking spot on the Honister Pass just below the YH and Slate Mine. Camp was just below Pillar overlooking Wasdale and toward Scafel and Scafell Pike.


Lovely - glad that your trip was a success. Any photos?
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: RockPenguin on 16:55:40, 12/07/20

Lovely - glad that your trip was a success. Any photos?


Yes I have a few. I'm a newbie here and I'm not entirely sure how to post them though??
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: richardh1905 on 19:25:05, 12/07/20

Yes I have a few. I'm a newbie here and I'm not entirely sure how to post them though??


You need to upload them to a 3rd party image hosting side, and then copy and paste the 'Direct Link' for the image into the pop up box that appears when you press the image icon that appears above the smiley emoji when you make a post.


I use imgbb.com - very simple and free. I also reduce the image size to 800x600 using Microsoft Paint.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 11:23:44, 17/07/20
My wife noticed a 'wild camping' site online, www.nearlywildcamping.org so I Googled it, then I noticed there are similar sites as well. Might be useful information if and when needed?
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: daniel22 on 11:30:55, 17/07/20
Aye I'll take a gander! Thanks :D
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 11:48:25, 17/07/20
I've just tried to connect to the www.nearlywildcamping.org site, which doesn't seem to work on my PC. I'll try again later.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: daniel22 on 11:49:50, 17/07/20
Same here, page not responding. Probably a blip on their end
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 12:16:03, 17/07/20
During the last couple of mornings, after 6 am and before my wife gets up, I've been trying to work out how many layouts I can organise with my Alpkit 3.5 tarp. I wish I'd done this before because when I've just used my tarp when hiking I've never found the most ideal way to use it.

I have now worked out a series of movement flows, starting with the basic set up when I first erect the tarp and then by just taking out a tent peg or by just moving my tarp pole from one position to another how I can smoothly adapt it to the weather conditions at the time. For example, when it rains during the day can be one layout, when I want to sleep (and to adjust for a dry or a wet night) when its windy and so on it can be another layout. Also, I have practiced when in my bivi how to adjust the height and so on without having to get out and stand up to do it all.

I was rather surprised how many layout variations could be achieved with such a small area of waterproof material.

I also bought myself a proper bivi pole, cost £10, ordered yesterday, arrived today. The reason I did this was that I can now use the bivi pole as my default pole and can use one or both hiking poles if needed.

I've now got to decide how many strings I need and what length they need to be, another little lockdown interest for me! Later today I'm going to have a look at buying some smaller tent pegs. What fun!
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: Booga on 09:23:20, 18/07/20
Thanks Richard, Kielder certainly looks appealing! Couple of hours drive but would be worth it!
Just a heads up. Kielder forest park have announced that they are not allowing wild camping for the rest of 2020. This is not due to true wild campers but because of the mess caused by some folks abandoning cheap tents and leaving litter.  :-[ As usual it's the few selfish people that spoil it for the rest of us.
https://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/news/18574604.wild-camping-banned-kielder-increase-littering/ (https://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/news/18574604.wild-camping-banned-kielder-increase-littering/)
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: richardh1905 on 09:27:36, 18/07/20
Can't understand the mentality of people who would go out into the wilds, and leave such a mess. Sad.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 14:28:32, 18/07/20
That photo of the abandoned camp interests me, such a lot of stuff, tents as well. I'd love to know the story of how the trip started, were the tents already owned by someone or were they bought just for the trip, how many people were involved, where were they from, what age were they, why did they decide to go to that spot, how long were they there, was there a car park nearby or did they walk to it, etc, etc? So many questions but obviously we'll never know the answers.

My son is a journalist and he wonders if the photo was actually from Kielder, or was it 'borrowed' from another location to give the story more reader impact? How would we even know?
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: fernman on 10:16:04, 19/07/20
In today's Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/19/it-was-like-a-bomb-had-hit-an-off-licence-rise-in-wild-camping-hits-beauty-spots (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/19/it-was-like-a-bomb-had-hit-an-off-licence-rise-in-wild-camping-hits-beauty-spots)

It is interesting to note that "Both the National Trust and Cornwall Council are keen to distinguish between discreet wild campers – who pitch late in remote locations and go early without leaving any trace of their presence – and larger groups camping in inappropriate places and leaving behind rubbish", although Cornwall Council's environment cabinet member said “We don’t encourage it [wild camping] – but we live with it.”

Additionally, a Forestry England ranger at Kielder is quoted as saying,
"We were quite happy when the people coming to camp were proper backpackers, who leave no trace.”
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: vizzavona on 11:41:03, 19/07/20
All of this is happening in the part of the Highlands where I live. Local Folks coming back from Braeriach, close to the path to the high ground, with images of abandoned tent, portable BBQ kit and all the rest including cooking stove and pots.  The folks finding the debris gathered it up and carried it all back down to the valley.
On my visit to Glen Feshie this week at the upper bridge over the river there was a Large tent close to the big pool.  That was on Thursday ...my daughter who was in the area earlier in the week said that the tent was also in that position then and I spoke to folks at the coffee shop in Kincraig that they additionally found the scorching of a camp fire at the same location.
I was further into the glen above the Bothy and was aware of the small backpacker tents at the usual positions for an overnight or two  stop...all looked tidy and shipshape. There is a huge difference between those that care for the outdoors and of those with other motives.

 
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: eddycreative on 15:26:56, 03/12/20
So Wild Camping is basically "frowned upon", moreso than illegal in a real life situation anyway. There are very few documented cases of people out wild camping who have been arrested or moved on. Even on the Lake District website they have a section for wild camping with do's and dont's, so if it was truely 100% illegal and utterly frowned upon, they just wouldn't have that info available.


Dartmoor and Scotland are your best bets, as Scotland has some of the most liberal land laws in the whole of the UK, you can almost wild camp anywhere (within reason). Dartmoor is probably one of the best places to wild camp in England, but do your research before going as the Military often take their guys there to train, last thing you want to do is wild camp during a training session  ;D ;D


Crucially however, if you hike somewhere then wild camp when it gets dark, dont draw too much attention and then leave early in the morning, 99.9% of the time you'll be fine, and this is confirmed both by real life case studies of people who i know do a lot of wild/stealth camping, and also the popular youtubers who just vlog their experiences.

Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: pasbury on 16:52:28, 03/12/20
I am quite passionate on this subject.


If you are walking with a tent, mat and sleeping bag in your rucksack, and hopefully a wee stove, food and a pan then you are choosing to camp out.
No-one should ever feel guilty about leaving a small print on the grass in the morning. Whatever the law has to say about this is risible. It's about personal freedom, enjoying freedom, smelling the scent of morning frost, of autumn bracken. Being a free human.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 17:44:00, 03/12/20
I never worry about it myself, if I have to camp I'll camp. I'll be discrete of course and more than likely no one will ever know I was there.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: Ronin83 on 12:22:29, 22/12/20
There's quite a few situation whereby you can wild camp.
I'd recommend the book 'wild camping' by Stephen Neale. He lists all the ways and which organisations unofficially support it when done the right way.


There's some about by the canal and by the sea as well as on the fells away from a path.


The upper classes in this country basically took the countryside for themselves, banned us peasants from it and turned most of it into farmland. Unfortunately that culture still goes on to a lesser extent. I'm sure this isn't exactly news to any of you, but it's important to remember and the statistics presented in the book are quite disturbing.


My point is don't feel guilty about discreet wild camping. Nature is ours.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 20:27:55, 22/12/20
'to a lesser extent?' I wonder if that is correct or not?

If you have a read of some of the entries in 'whoownsengland.org' it may confirm your view but it could also change it?
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: Ronin83 on 23:51:05, 22/12/20
Well yeh maybe it depends how you look at it. Atleast we have more rights to roam etc though.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: windyrigg on 08:43:42, 23/12/20
For 'proper' wild campers there are a million places to set up in Kielder where no one would ever know you had been.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: Birdman on 11:14:02, 23/12/20

My point is don't feel guilty about discreet wild camping. Nature is ours.


It's not about feeling guilty. It's about not wanting to have to fight somebody or getting disturbed. I don't enjoy my wild camp if I'm on edge.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 17:35:13, 23/12/20
I agree I hate it when I'm on edge, (and I have been more than once) so always try to avoid this problem if I can.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: windyrigg on 09:12:30, 24/12/20
I would also struggle to sleep if I felt vulnerable (wouldn't we all?), so I wouldn't set up camp on a path or near a road etc. Setting up camp 'illegally' is different; one view would be that any wild camp in England is illegal. That doesn't give me a moments thought I'm afraid, our access legislation leaves a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 12:19:25, 24/12/20
Same as me, I too don't give it a moments thought about it being illegal, if I need to camp, then I need to camp.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: richardh1905 on 13:15:03, 24/12/20
Certainly no guilty feelings on my part, either. But, on the other hand, I don't want to cause any offence to anyone, and I certainly don't want to have a confrontation with an irate farmer just as I am about to drop off to sleep! So I am always discreet.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: Birdman on 13:23:13, 24/12/20
Yes that's it. I just don't want to cause conflict or offence, or being worried about that. I don't give a toss about legality, as I will be camping according to "leave no trace" principles. Nobody would even know I have camped there apart from the grass being a bit flattened, which will have recovered within a day.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: gunwharfman on 14:08:58, 24/12/20
I agree but forgot to mention it, I too am discrete. I wake up, get packed and stroll on to a stop somewhere else for breakfast, hygiene and generally sorting myself out.
Title: Re: Wild Camping
Post by: fernman on 14:42:14, 24/12/20
It's the complete opposite with me, I love the camping as much as walking through changing scenery and I don't get on the move till quite late. While I'm always apprehensive of a farmer coming along, it has never happened yet, and the chances of anyone else are extremely slim considering I walk in places where I might not see a person in four days.
The only times I have packed up and got away quickly were to escape strong winds that developed overnight.