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Title: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Mel on 22:40:21, 19/09/20
Is this even a “thing”?  Are there any companies or organisations that loan out tents?
 
I have the rest of the stuff that I can make do with initially, but don’t want to fork out for another tent that I might not use again if I don’t take to this wild camping malarkey.
 
I have my “tent palace” for campsite camping but at 15kg I’d hardly call it a backpacker’s tent!
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: richardh1905 on 22:51:41, 19/09/20
I doubt very much that you would find a company hiring out small one/two person tents, Mel - but I could be wrong.


An alternative approach would be to take a gamble on ebay - you can always sell it again if you decide that wild camping is not for you, or if you decide that you want a better tent.


Unless you are planning to camp high in winter, most aluminium alloy backpacking tents will do the job.


Edit - doesn't seem to be much in the way of small tents on ebay right now.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Little Foot on 22:53:03, 19/09/20
I remember my mum telling me about hiring a lot of camping gear years ago when we were kids, so maybe it’s still a thing.

I have a Zephyrous 2 that I wouldn’t mind you using if you can’t find anything. It’s 1.8kg, so not too heavy, but not the lightest out there. Might be a bit small if there’s two full grown adults using it though.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Birdman on 07:30:39, 20/09/20
I would just buy a cheap (but decent) new tent. For example, I see a Vango Nevis 200 for £88.40 now (with discount code, incl shipping at Ultimate Outdoors) and there are many other good options. Personally I wouldn't take the risk buying a tent second hand and then find out during my camping trip that it leaks, because it will save you relatively little money for potentially a ruined camping experience. Better save on accommodation and restaurants, that's where the real expenditure is, imo.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: richardh1905 on 08:26:02, 20/09/20
Yes, there are some decent low price tents out there for less than £100.


As well as the Nevis, there's also the Robens Arrowhead, and I quite like the look of the Olpro tunnel tents, all less than £100 and all less than 2kg.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Islandplodder on 09:23:04, 20/09/20
I bought an Alpkit soloist in the summer, just over £100. It's tiny, but very light, I can carry it, and I'm old and a bit pathetic on the carrying front. A couple of weeks ago I took it on a cycle tour in the Scottish borders and it kept me dry through 4 breezy and showery nights.
If it's any help, it was the first time I had wild camped for at least 30 years, or camped at all apart from a couple of discreet nights in the summer to try out the tent, and I loved it, slightly to my surprise. I also  reckoned I had paid for it in saved b&bs on that one trip.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Birdman on 10:01:55, 20/09/20
I bought an Alpkit soloist in the summer, just over £100. It's tiny, but very light, I can carry it, and I'm old and a bit pathetic on the carrying front. A couple of weeks ago I took it on a cycle tour in the Scottish borders and it kept me dry through 4 breezy and showery nights.
If it's any help, it was the first time I had wild camped for at least 30 years, or camped at all apart from a couple of discreet nights in the summer to try out the tent, and I loved it, slightly to my surprise. I also  reckoned I had paid for it in saved b&bs on that one trip.


I love this success story!


Also, just a couple of times not having to stay in B&B (incl being forced to eat in a restaurant) already pays for a decent tent that will last for many years. it always surprises me how people fret over spending a relatively small amount of money on gear but easily fork out money for B&B and restaurants.


In addition to this, I see camping gear as an enabler. It makes things possible that you wouldn't be able to do otherwise. For me personally, the best experiences of my entire life wouldn't have been possible without it.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: MarkT on 10:02:39, 20/09/20
I just searched "backpacking tent hire" and quite a few companies came up. I looked at outdoorhire and they seem to cover all the equipment you need for any kind of outdoor adventure but options are limited but may be worth a look. They also offer courses and organised trips for anyone else interested.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: watershed on 10:11:30, 20/09/20

I love this success story!


Also, just a couple of times not having to stay in B&B (incl being forced to eat in a restaurant) already pays for a decent tent that will last for many years. it always surprises me how people fret over spending a relatively small amount of money on gear but easily fork out money for B&B and restaurants.


In addition to this, I see camping gear as an enabler. It makes things possible that you wouldn't be able to do otherwise. For me personally, the best experiences of my entire life wouldn't have been possible without it.


So true on all counts.


Love islandplodders modesty!
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: gunwharfman on 10:12:54, 20/09/20
If you want to borrow it for a trip you are more than welcome to my Wild Country Zephyros One or my (it's well used and bashed about now) Marmot Pulsar One tent. The Zephyros one is better suited for the colder periods of the year. You highlight for me the problem of tents, which one is actually worth buying and I would be happy to live with over time. I've looked but can't seem to find one that equals or betters my Marmot Pulsar One. My model is no longer made and I'd be happy to purchase one again but only if the outer tent was not orange, if it was lighter in weight and didn't cost a lot more money. The option to hire would be useful to me as well.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: richardh1905 on 10:33:34, 20/09/20
In addition to this, I see camping gear as an enabler. It makes things possible that you wouldn't be able to do otherwise. For me personally, the best experiences of my entire life wouldn't have been possible without it.


Indeed; so true. Give me a night by a lonely tarn high up on a remote hillside over a night in a hotel or B&B any day!
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Birdman on 10:43:18, 20/09/20
One year ago, waking up in West MacDonnell National Park (Australia). Cost of this accommodation: £0,00  

 
(https://www.hikingbirdman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/AUS_Larapinta_CountsPoint_morning_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: cornwallcoastpathdweller on 11:41:40, 20/09/20
Shall keep my eye on this thread because im also in the market for a cheap one man 'wild camping tester' tent. 
Tried using a real £20 cheapy from ebay a week or two back on my first wild camp in the Cotswolds as an experiment, learnt my lesson that despite being 5'8" tall a 2.0m tent was too small to lie in without head and feet touching the ends, so something slightly longer required.



Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Birdman on 12:10:34, 20/09/20
I camped with this £89 tent in Scotland, the Ethiopian Simien Mountains (photo) and Costa Rica and survived some serious thunderstorms while staying perfectly dry.

In my opinion, a cheap (but true backpacking-) tent is functionally almost as good as the stuff that costs hundreds of pounds. However, it will be a few hundred grams heavier because of the used materials (usually polyurethane coated polyester vs Silnylon). In my experience it will also not last as long, as the polyurethane will decay (it blisters off) especially when stored wet and it seems to be more UV-sensitive than silnylon. However, a full silnylon tent usually costs several times as much (and I don't want to talk about Dyneema Composite Fabric...), so that would be a waste of money if the tent is not used that often. Also, consider that your tent is quite likely to get damaged faster by little accidents than by normal wear and tear. For that reason, it took me a while before I considered spending more money on a tent.


(https://www.hikingbirdman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ETH_SimienTrek16.jpg)

Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Stube on 12:27:43, 20/09/20
My local (Portsmouth) Tesco Extra was selling off two man doubled skinned dome tents for £10! A little heavy at ~2,5kg but undenyably a bargain.
I have almost enough tents  the (last) one I want is unavailable at the moment) and this one is unlikely to ever get used. BUT I was sorely tempted!
You might find it in other large Tescos.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: richardh1905 on 18:05:40, 20/09/20
...However, a full silnylon tent usually costs several times as much (and I don't want to talk about Dyneema Composite Fabric...)


I bought a brand new full silnylon tent for £129 recently.
https://crux-outlet.online/product/t10-trek (https://crux-outlet.online/product/t10-trek)
Not the quickest or easiest tent to pitch, and it is inner first, but I've been out in some pretty wild conditions recently, and it is a real toughie.


PS - stunning photos there, by the way. O0
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Birdman on 18:26:31, 20/09/20

I bought a brand new full silnylon tent for £129 recently.
https://crux-outlet.online/product/t10-trek (https://crux-outlet.online/product/t10-trek)
Not the quickest or easiest tent to pitch, and it is inner first, but I've been out in some pretty wild conditions recently, and it is a real toughie.


PS - stunning photos there, by the way. O0


I think only the flysheet is silnylon (groundsheet is PU-coated polyester). But it is amazing value! It would probably be my pick too for that money!  

 
Btw: personally I wouldn't care at all if it is pitched inner first. When it rains it takes you only a few minutes to mob-up the few drops that get inside while pitching, and in warm dry weather you have the advantage that you can use the tent without the fly, which is much cooler while still enjoying full bug protection.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: richardh1905 on 19:57:19, 20/09/20

I think only the flysheet is silnylon (groundsheet is PU-coated polyester). But it is amazing value! It would probably be my pick too for that money!


Btw: personally I wouldn't care at all if it is pitched inner first. When it rains it takes you only a few minutes to mob-up the few drops that get inside while pitching, and in warm dry weather you have the advantage that you can use the tent without the fly, which is much cooler while still enjoying full bug protection.


I've not found inner pitching in the rain to be a problem in practice, but some people get very excited about it.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: gunwharfman on 20:48:08, 20/09/20
My Marmot Pulsar is not a problem, I can pitch the inner first or outer first depending on the weather. If I have to pitch the outer first, the rest of it involves a bit of wiggling about but better than getting wet.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Mel on 23:01:06, 20/09/20
Oh!  Thank you all for the replies – lots of food for thought  :)
 
Richard – I’ve no plans to do winter camping.  Like my campsite camping, fair weather only (well, warm weather anyway).
 
Little Foot – how have you found your Zeph 2 tent?  That’s a very kind offer by the way.
 
MarkT – that’s interesting.  I’ve just had a quick looksee at that site and am surprised at the prices – much cheaper than I expected.
 
Gunwharfman – another very kind offer.
 
For those suggesting I buy a cheap tent and sell on if I don’t take to it, I’m shying away from doing that as I’m not a fan of online selling and I already have (a la gunwharfman) too much stuff I don’t use or have upgraded or shrunk out of.
 
I’m not overly concerned about the type of tent at the moment as it’s the “wild camping experience” I want to see if I like, first and foremost but if I find I do I will look into the suggested tents – thank you.
 
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: FOX160 on 00:36:59, 21/09/20
Try these https://www.outdoorhire.co.uk/camp.php (https://www.outdoorhire.co.uk/camp.php)
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: richardh1905 on 16:46:45, 21/09/20
Try these https://www.outdoorhire.co.uk/camp.php (https://www.outdoorhire.co.uk/camp.php)


Interesting link, FOX. Actually not a bad price for someone wanting to try it out, especially the weekly hire. You have to allow extra for shipping, I suppose.
Title: Re: Backpacking Tents on loan?
Post by: Little Foot on 17:32:50, 21/09/20

 
Little Foot – how have you found your Zeph 2 tent?  That’s a very kind offer by the way.
 



I’ve only used it once for a two nighter with my son, but it was fine for us. I’m only small so those of a taller stature might struggle with headroom. I was able to tuck the two rucksacks into the porch area down the side of the tent too.

 
I’ve bought a Naturehike Mongar 2 for our next trip, which I have put up in the garden, but not actually had a night out in yet. That one is easier to put up than the Zeph, but I’ve read the tunnel design is better for windier areas. I’m keeping the Zeph for any solo trips.