After reading the views and looking up the sites mentioned and a few more besides I still believe that the 'big boys' own the net space and obviously milk it for their own gain. I accept that its capitalism and that's the way it works but I personally am convinced there must be products 'out there' which match or even better the big companies. When for example do we see these tents compared to Robens, Lightwave, Alpkit, Naturehike, and other brands? When I see someone writing that they are not involved with a big company for their own gain, that's when I tend to raise my eyebrows!