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..............some dot watching for a couple of days as John Kelly attempts to break the thirty one year old Pennine Way record of 2 days 17 hours and a few minutes.He should be starting later this week.
https://randomforestrunner.com/2020/06/the-hartley-slam/
https://live.opentracking.co.uk/johnpennine20/
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That'll be some feat but if anyone can I guess he can :)
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Am I right in thinking he was this year’s Spine race winner?
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Am I right in thinking he was this year’s Spine race winner?
Yes. He won the race in 3 days 15 hours so the time he is aiming for might just be possible.
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Followed the last Spine Race, my first real knowledge of it taking place, what incredible people taking part!
I will be following ... supporting and cheering him on for an injury free run.
Good Luck John it will be an incredible achievement!
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Good luck to him! A feat well beyond mere mortals.
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Good luck to him. Chopping about 22 hours off his Spine winning time would be an incredible feat, even taking into account better conditions, longer daylight hours, pacemakers, support etc.
I'll be following this.
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Clicked on tracker, first occasion got map with 'John Kelly on Pennine Way 2020'. Last tracked 01 Jul 11.32, left open and nothing has changed all day, including 2 Support.
Went via another link which took ages to load and I got Trackers Leaderboard - Nothing!
Anything happening for anyone?
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See original post - starting later this week
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See original post - starting later this week
Oops! ::)
His Facebook mentioned he was in Kirk Yetholm yesterday... confused!
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I will try to watch as much as I can, thanks for the heads up tony O0
The weather looks grim, I wonder if he will delay it until after the weekend?
I wish him luck, I enjoyed watching his Spine Race dot earlier this year and the money raised is for such a worthy cause.
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Tracker for John and the support now showing at Edale.
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The weather looks grim, I wonder if he will delay it until after the weekend?
Typical Pennine Way weather in July! Light rain would probably be welcome as it has a cooling effect in the summer but the wind might slow things down.The other problem is the paving being slippery and leading to falls/injury.The weather at the start in Edale dosen't seem too bad and by the time he hits Cross Fell the wind should have abated a little.
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Oh good love dot watching it always motivates me to try and get fitter!!! We should have been doing the Pennine Way at the moment (more like 2 weeks, not 2 days) but sacked it till next year :( :( Was on Cross Fell a couple of weeks ago during the warm spell, conditions were very good underfoot and great visibility in fact had never been up there when it was so nice and calm. However suspect PW conditions are now boggy and soggy. Great respect to him, reading his intro he is obviously a very responsible chap, I would have gone & cheered him on en route from somewhere near my stamping ground but after reading his post will be doing that from the comfort of my sofa!. Good luck to him O0 O0
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Does anyone know when he actually starts?
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Does anyone know when he actually starts?
I guess when the wind/rain dies down.
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Does anyone know when he actually starts?
According to his twitter feed it is on hold onto the weather shows some signs of improvement but he says he should start soon.
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Sabrina Verjee is in action, if anyone fancies watching her 214 Wainwrights Challenge...
https://live.opentracking.co.uk/sabs0720/#
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Yes I read that as well, posted thelthe in Lake District section. She is doing well just approaching Scafell, looking at the splits from what I can make out she is ahead of schedule. Hats off to these ultra runners, they are a breed apart O0 O0
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Sabrina Verjee is in action, if anyone fancies watching her 214 Wainwrights Challenge...
https://live.opentracking.co.uk/sabs0720/# (https://live.opentracking.co.uk/sabs0720/#)
I can't work this out at all.Other than her position there is no data at all.I dont even know where she started from.
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She started in Keswick. The blue line is where she has run and the red where she will be running. If you click on and of the small blue dots it will tell you what time she was there.
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I can't work this out at all.Other than her position there is no data at all.I dont even know where she started from.
As Ridge says Sabrina started in Keswick .... 3.00am Monday 6th July ....
Hope this may help:-
When click link, the number 1 will 'bounce' to show her current location.
The red circles on the map are the summits, where blue line passed through are ones completed.
On right of screen there should be Summary details, if you click 'Splits', to right of 'Details', this shows times completed each Summit and ETA at Summits to reach. (gives lots of info).
If you go back to Map below the + & - the icon reveals various map views, I like the bottom one 'Open Top' and 'Aerial' where you can zoom right in to see actual route being travelled.
You may have to 'refresh' the screen for(1) to change position.
Once you get into the way of using the various ways to view it is amazingly good.
If still having problems let me know.
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Thanks for the clarification.For some reason the blue dots are now showing.Previously all I could see was her position and the summits.
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Looks as though she just had an hours rest! Some people have no stamina, she has only being going for 2 days without sleep! ;D
If you use Internet Explorer it doesn't show the splits on the right hand side (well it doesn't for me), but it works with Chrome.
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After yesterday's grotty weather in the Lakes looks like the weather will be kind to her today. Just don't know how they do it, full of admiration for them. Wonder if John will start his Pennine Way attempt today.
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I hope Sabrina is OK, she is for the first time dropping behind her predicted times.
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Looks as though she just had an hours rest! Some people have no stamina, she has only being going for 2 d
If you use Internet Explorer it doesn't show the splits on the right hand side (well it doesn't for me), but it works with Chrome.
I have been using Firefox and the panel on the right is blank.Will try Chrome later.
I should imagine that Mr Kelly will be starting after the weekend once things have dried up a bit and we have a few days of settled weather.
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I have been using Firefox and the panel on the right is blank.Will try Chrome later
Just as a thought what happens when you click on 'Participants' button?
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Clicking on the participants using Internet Explorer I just get the blue line with her times at various points on the track and the circled Wainwrights but not the plan on the right hand side.
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What time have you got her on that route?
I can see her at 20:17:54 & 20:20:51 heading on the correct route to Little Hart Crag.
Sorry Harland I see you have deleted your post.
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What time have you got her on that route?
I can see her at 20:17:54 & 20:20:51 heading on the correct route to Little Hart Crag.
I deleted my previous post when I thought that she had doubled back to Hartsop Above How but not quick enough for you to spot my mistake. However she seems to be back on her split times to the minute at the moment.
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she seems to be back on her split times to the minute at the moment.
Some of the split times look to give her much longer than others to cover similar ground, which has put her back on time.
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Just as a thought what happens when you click on 'Participants' button?
When I click the "Participants" button using Firefox I get a photo of Sabrina and her name.Was even worse on Chrome with no data panel at all.
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When I click the "Participants" button using Firefox I get a photo of Sabrina and her name.Was even worse on Chrome with no data panel at all.
Email opentracking, [email protected] just been emailing them, they are very happy to hear from anyone with issues.
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Gawd I wouldn't fancy going up Red Screes in the rain at quarter to ten!
PS - I note that Caw is not included.
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Gawd I wouldn't fancy going up Red Screes in the rain at quarter to ten!
PS - I note that Caw is not included.
Or even worse coming down the thin path to Kirkstone pass in the dark and rain :o
Caw fell is there but if you mean Caw in Dunnerdale that's not one of the 214. Whether he should have included it is a debate for another day :)
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Or even worse coming down the thin path to Kirkstone pass in the dark and rain :o
I came down that way a couple of years ago in the pouring rain during the day and that was not nice. Trying to do it in the dark in 19 minutes :o
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Looks like she has a planned rest at the Kirkstone Pass. Even I could get from there up to Stony Cove Pike in less than an hour.
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Caw fell is there but if you mean Caw in Dunnerdale that's not one of the 214. Whether he should have included it is a debate for another day :)
It was the Dunnerdale Caw that I was referring to - I noticed that it was not on her route and was surprised as it is a substantial and excellent hill.
Not going to get involved in that debate - Wainwrights not my thing ;)
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Looks like she has a planned rest at the Kirkstone Pass. Even I could get from there up to Stony Cove Pike in less than an hour.
Not entirely sure that I could!
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Two and a half hours behind schedule although the worst of the rain has gone but will be "slippery" underfoot. Does anyone know whether she needs to keep to the schedule in order to set a new record or has she some leeway?
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The split times finish on Dale Head in 5 days 21 hours and 3 minutes. She then has High Spy, Maiden Moor and Catbells to cover before returning to Keswick in less than the current record of 6 days and 6 hours.
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She was obviously intending to take a rest/sleep at Troutbeck as they allowed 2 hours 34 minutes to get to Sour Howes whereas it took her 44 minutes. Was this because she didn't need the rest or an attempt to get her back on track?
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I wonder if she decided to break after Troutbeck Tongue instead of pressing on and breaking after Baystones.
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Checking through time points, A592 High Kingate 04:25:48, next time point 06:10:29. Time point before Troutbeck (120) stop, 06:54:22, Troutbeck 07:05:20, next point 07:16:17, indicating she stopped earlier than planned (due to weather?) and didn't stay long in Troutbeck.
Find this all amazing!
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I kid myself that I could do the distance given time (weeks not days) but I couldn't survive on the amount of sleep/rest that these athletes can.
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Just spotted that overnight she should have gone from Hartsop Dodd across Pasture Beck to Gray Crag. However I presume that there was too much water in the beck or the descent too wet/dangerous as she retraced her steps to Stony Cove and then reached Gray Crag from the south. That would have cost her c. 30 minutes.
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It may be that she just thought the damage to her knees of the sharp ascent and descent wasn't worth the shorter distance.
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Just spotted that - smart move, in my opinion - looks like a punishing descent and re-ascent.
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Sabrina did Rest Dodd and then The Nab as opposed to the other way round which is on the schedule. But, at Rampsgill Head, she is 1:49 off her schedule. Her current schedule gives her about 9 hours to get from Dale Head to Keswick so there is still hope.
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Does this woman ever sleep?
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She might not have slept but she spent a couple of hours at Patterdale (don't blame her I quite like it there!). 3 hours 24 minutes behind split at Helvellyn. However she was planned to stop at Glenridding for a couple of hours so perhaps she will go straight through when she gets there.
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2.15 adrift at the moment.
How she is doing this I can not imagine. Never mind the continual running but the sleep deprivation too. The thought of coming down Swirral Edge having not slept for 5 days, I would break my neck.
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Unless I have misunderstood, the splits give her agout 6.5 hours in hand, so as long as she doesn't lose too much more time she is still on course to beat the record. Now I had better use the inspiration, stop sitting around dot watching and get myself out and up the tiny tump behind the house.
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A previous post from Ridge shows "The split times finish on Dale Head in 5 days 21 hours and 3 minutes. She then has High Spy, Maiden Moor and Catbells to cover before returning to Keswick in less than the current record of 6 days and 6 hours." Can't see the split times after Dale Head.
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That's odd, I can see the split times up to the finish at 2.29, which gives her 5 days, 23 hours and 31 minutes, if she started at 3.00am on Monday. Any sign of John Kelly starting?
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Sorry, 29 minutes. That would put her 6 hours and 31 minutes inside the record. er...I think. Muddling myself now!
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Mine has a white panel at the bottom of the list which, as I scroll through, the times and places appear from behind. But I've just discovered with a bit of playing about that if I am not on full screen it will show me the last 3 hills and the finish.
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Got mine to work now to show the finish split time on both Internet Explorer and Chrome. The question is will I stay up to see her finish on Sunday morning, it will seem wrong to go to bed when she has been battling on without much rest/sleep!
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Any sign of John Kelly starting?
He said he is going to wait until conditions are favourable to beating the record.Makes sense really as its a very tough record to beat and was set in good conditions.
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Mine has a white panel at the bottom of the list which, as I scroll through, the times and places appear from behind. But I've just discovered with a bit of playing about that if I am not on full screen it will show me the last 3 hills and the finish.
Thanks for that.It is now finally working as it should and I can see the splits in the panel.
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I did wonder if she would take a shortcut, albeit steeper after Hazelhurst to get to Souther Fell and she appears to be taking the straight up option!
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and it has pulled her back some time.
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Looks like the reception is like the Falcon Clints on the Pennine Way when you lose them for a while.
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Looks like the reception is like the Falcon Clints on the Pennine Way when you lose them for a while.
and it is equally annoying when you are glued to it.
She should be at the check point by now I would have thought.
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Now back, looks like she had 30 minutes rest at Mosedale Road End.
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Now back, looks like she had 30 minutes rest at Mosedale Road End.
She's a slacker ;)
2.50 off the schedule now and still a long way to go. Hope she can do it.
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I hope that she does as well, however even if she doesn't it is a tremendous effort that I can't contemplate even thinking about. I couldn't even work out the best route let alone walk it. - she deserves an Olympic Medal and a gold post box in Ambleside!
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Now back to 2 hours 23 behind at Carrock Fell.
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Been having a read of fellrunners forum, just to find out what they all think about Sabina's incredible challenge..... more than impressed!
Notice John Kelly has announced he's had a haircut, so nearly ready to commence his challenge.
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Good morning all,
3.46 behind at Skiddaw
3.56 behind at Lonscale Fell
4.07 behind at Little Man
4.13 behind at Carl Side
4.14 behind at Long Side
4.12 behind at Ullock Pike
After Dodd Wood there is a long stretch of relatively flat road walking/running so perhaps she can make up some time there.
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4.14 on Long Side
I hope the 2 rest stops at Dodd Wood and the Pheasant and the long, relatively flat run out to Binsey and back will give her chance to catch up a bit.
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Whether she breaks the record or not, it is an incredible achievement, way beyond the comprehension let alone reach of a mere mortal like myself.
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Even what she has done so far is superhuman. I will just really feel for her after 'watching' her put all that effort in if she just misses out on her goal.
4.15 adrift on Ullock Pike so she is holding fairly steady now, coming through another night must be a boost. The weather looks perfect for her today.
E2A Dodd at 4.33 behind schedule.
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As a new record for the Wainwrights that was set by Joss Naylor has only been beaten twice in 33 years it is/was always going to be difficult, the weather could have been kinder.
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She is on the move again.
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As a new record for the Wainwrights that was set by Joss Naylor has only been beaten twice in 33 years it is/was always going to be difficult, the weather could have been kinder.
The original record was set by the late Alan Heaton in 1985.Quite remarkable really as he was 57 years old at the time and near the end of his running career.A couple of months prior to this I had run part of the LDWA Dales 100 with him,from around 15 miles to the 63 mile CP where he increased his pace to a level that was beyond my ability.The man was a machine,going on mile after mile with the same relaxed gait. When he was running the Wainwrights he had to go to hospital with a painful toe that turned out to be septic.After treatment he got on with the job and managed to get to the finish in just over nine days.
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Even if she doesn’t beat the record, according to Grough news, she will be the first woman to complete it.
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Just over 6 hours down at Binsey, I can't see that there is any leeway to the end to make much up now. However her split time finish was Sunday 2.29 a.m. so she has a gap of 6 hours 33 minutes to beat the record, so you never know.
6.48 down at The Pheasant Inn
6.48 down at Sale Fell
6.51 down at Ling Fell
6.58 down at Graystones
6.59 down at Broom Fell
7.01 down at Lord's Seat
7.02 down at Barf
7.08 down at Whinlatter
7.08 behind at Grisedale Pike
7.14 behind at Hopegill Head
7.17 behind at Whitesid
9.21 behind at Rannerdale Knotts
10.04 behind at Whiteless Pike
10.36 behind at Wandope
10.47 behind at Grasmoor
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It will still be a huge achievement to be the first/fastest woman.
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Watched 'Paul Tierney's: Running the Wainwrights', giving me more admiration for Sabrina, and all those that have attempted this! Amazing, just doesn't cover it!
Wonder how much support/backup Josh Naylor had when he achieved his Wainwrights record, anyone know?
This is a ridiculous question.... has anyone attempted this more than once? :D
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Whilst I am sure that Sabs wants to continue and finish from my comfortable armchair I wonder whether, like boxing, the seconds/helpers should pull her out or at least get her to take a good long break before continuing. She must be very strong mentally. Full of admiration, she didn't "just" walk it and take her time but has pushed herself to the limit and beyond.
Do you think John Kelly has delayed his start of the Pennine Way so that we don't have to swap between the maps.
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No record, but a great effort. Keep going, Sabrina!
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I found my self thinking that at least she's on the home strait now, which I suppose she is but it would still be a huge day for any normal person. Topped off with the never ending drag back in to Keswick.
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I suspect that she will welcome a bit of flat, Ridge!
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I think she will still have set a record when she finishes as the fastest/only lady to have completed the official attempt, although I stand to be corrected if I have my info wrong. Anyway come on Sabs remarkable, brilliant effort that us armchair dot watchers can only dream off, hats off.
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She recently assented Barrow where it looks as though she might just be able to see Keswick but then she has to turn round and go back down and it will be late this evening/tomorrow before she gets there.
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She's at her final check point but Knott Rigg to the Newlands pass, which must be about 1km and is all down hill, has taken her 38 minutes. She's got a couple of big climbs left to do, I hope she can make it.
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She's at her final check point but Knott Rigg to the Newlands pass, which must be about 1km and is all down hill, has taken her 38 minutes. She's got a couple of big climbs left to do, I hope she can make it.
That's worrying and seems like injury pace. Hope she can manage finishing, the Newlands Round is likely nothing for a runner like her but after 152 hours on the go and carrying what is likely quite a few niggles it's going to be traumatic.
Fingers crossed she can log her time and complete it.
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Just started off again.
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Not too far to go now and she should be inside Joss Naylors time of 7 days 1 hour 15 mins.
Kim Collinson has broken the 23 year old Lake District 24 hour record.He upped the record to 78 summits in 23.45.
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Read on a FB page that her knees are not good, just hope she can keep going to establish the ladies record. 4 more to go, full respect.
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Not too far to go now and she should be inside Joss Naylors time of 7 days 1 hour 15 mins.
Any way to find out what kind or amount of support he had during his Wainwrights attempt?
When looking through film of current record, he had massive support, that will make a lot of difference.
Sabrina is a remarkable lady, some achievement!
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Read on a FB page that her knees are not good, just hope she can keep going to establish the ladies record. 4 more to go, full respect.
I was thinking that once she got to High Spy it would be relatively OK but if it is her knees then down hill can be worse than up.
Hope she can keep going.
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Any way to find out what kind or amount of support he had during his Wainwrights attempt?
When looking through film of current record, he had massive support, that will make a lot of difference.
Sabrina is a remarkable lady, some achievement!
From the Ramblers."He made a Wainwright attempt in 1985, modifying Alan's route to one he felt was more efficient. He ran through a heatwave, cut holes in his shoes to release the pressure on his ankles, suffered from terrible blisters, and struggled to eat. He stood on top of his last Wainwright within a week of starting, and ran back to touch the door of the Moot Hall 7 days, 1 hour and 25 minutes after starting. In this time he spent a total of just 44 hours resting."
When he set his 24 hour record in 1975 he had two or three companions with him at all times plus support at road crossings so I should imagine it was the same format with the Wainwrights.
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From the Ramblers."He made a Wainwright attempt in 1985, modifying Alan's route to one he felt was more efficient. He ran through a heatwave, cut holes in his shoes to release the pressure on his ankles, suffered from terrible blisters, and struggled to eat. He stood on top of his last Wainwright within a week of starting, and ran back to touch the door of the Moot Hall 7 days, 1 hour and 25 minutes after starting. In this time he spent a total of just 44 hours resting."
When he set his 24 hour record in 1975 he had two or three companions with him at all times plus support at road crossings so I should imagine it was the same format with the Wainwrights.
I thought looking at the man and the little I know about him, this would be the case. Different times...
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On the way down from Cat Bells, what a shame that Keswick can't/shouldn't (but I bet it is) be filled with people to clap her in after a magnificent achievement.
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Yes we are watching the dot from home willing her home, will give her a big clap and raise a glass. Just in awe of how this type of runner keeps going, come on Sabrina
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Just watching Keswick moot hall webcam she is about to arrive
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DONE! Amazing!
She's back in Keswick in 161 hours 50 minutes 12 seconds
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Brilliant she even managed a jog up to the moot hall. am worn out now... Just waiting for John to start, any news on when
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Tomorrow looks good although the weather looks slightly better for Tuesday/Wednesday. I guess we will need to keep looking, I presume he will start early morning to get the most daylight.
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Congratulations Sabrina - what an achievement!
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Brilliant she even managed a jog up to the moot hall. am worn out now... Just waiting for John to start, any news on when
According to his Twitter feed he should be starting at 10am tomorrow morning.Not a good start as his GPS took him to the wrong accommodation that had the same name as the one he was looking for. ;D
Well done Sabrina.
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Well John is on his way, kind of him to wait until Sabs had finished!
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Should be interesting.Pretty sure he is going to break the record provided his body holds together. Two days 12 hours?
He seems to be going very fast,half an hour up on his schedule at Crowden.Its taken him 2.5 hours to get from Edale to Crowden. :o
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And I thought I'd been quite quick when I did it in 6 hours ;D
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I got to Jacob's Ladder a lot earlier than he did! (However I did start at 08.00)
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Seven hours to Hebden Bridge! I managed it once in 2 days but was utterly knackered and really suffered on the third day.
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And he only took 9 minutes to get up the other side of the A646, I think he cheated as he probably didn't stop for a rest on the way up!
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And he only took 9 minutes to get up the other side of the A646, I think he cheated as he probably didn't stop for a rest on the way up!
The climb from the road to Colden usually takes me around two hours and includes several stops to check if I am still breathing.He is an hour ahead of his predicted schedule so he must be feeling confident.
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DONE! Amazing!
She's back in Keswick in 161 hours 50 minutes 12 seconds
I haven't had much time to dot watch over the last few days so I have missed this incredible performance O0 How anyone can do 214 Wainwrights like this is beyond me :)
I hope to be able to dot watch John Kelly a little more.
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Seven hours to Hebden Bridge! I managed it once in 2 days but was utterly knackered and really suffered on the third day.
Yes, I did the same in 2017, and like you was knackered on the 3rd day ;D
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Sabrina has just appeared on local Look North news.... guess what?
She's planning on having another attempt in May 2021!!!
Believe she said her descent of hills had to be made backwards, due to her injuries.
Astonishing!!!
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He will be at Lothersdale before long, it took me 4 days to get there the 1st time I walked the PW carrying too much in my rucksack - but I made it in the end.
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After watching him do the Spine Race in January, and having spent last week following Sabrina, I suppose we shouldn't be surprised about where he is in 12 hours but :o
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Thornton in 12 hours, from my book that is about 65 miles!
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Seven hours to Hebden Bridge! I managed it once in 2 days but was utterly knackered and really suffered on the third day.
It took us 3 days!
The climb from the road to Colden usually takes me around two hours and includes several stops to check if I am still breathing.He is an hour ahead of his predicted schedule so he must be feeling confident.
We stayed at Badgerfield Farm, Blackshaw, so remember that climb well at the end of the day!
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Has he missed the gap in the hedge after the double bridge?
Edit: Now back on track a little further on.
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He's in Gargrave,70 miles in 12 hours 50 mins and over an hour ahead of schedule.
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Well I've had a good sleep! John now approaching Gayle with c. 105 miles gone having gone through Malham, over Pen-y-Ghent, Horton-in-Ribblesdale and now about 90 minutes ahead of schedule.
He took a different route in Malham, whilst he didn't get any advantage is there a "rule" or whatever that allows some divergence from the accepted path? He must have decided to go a different way as the route through Malham is obvious, I can't think that it had been blocked off.
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Has he missed the gap in the hedge after the double bridge?
Edit: Now back on track a little further on.
Easily done O0
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He took a different route in Malham, whilst he didn't get any advantage is there a "rule" or whatever that allows some divergence from the accepted path? He must have decided to go a different way as the route through Malham is obvious, I can't think that it had been blocked off.
Puzzling. At least he made it out of Hawes OK this time which he struggled with on the Spine race.
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Strange that there is no mobile signal after Great Shunner Fell since 08.54, not normally a problem.
No sooner posted this then it has woken up again but lack of detail until after Thwaite.
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Not far from Keld now and still up on schedule.Back in 1979 Brian Harney covered the first 113 miles in 24 hours and failed by 40 minutes to break three days.
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Because there was no track we don't have a split for Thwaite. Be interesting to see how he is doing at Keld as he was up over an hour at one time but isn't now.
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He had about a 30 minute break at Hardraw.
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No signal again since 09.38, he should be beyond Keld by now and reception should be good, perhaps the battery has run down.
Can't watch for a while - off to get hair cut for the first time since 30 January!
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He is almost at Tan Hill and still and around 50 mins ahead of schedule.His schedule has him at the halfway point by 2.15pm so it will be interesting see if he can keep this pace going.
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Looking at his times although he is still ahead of his target he is now running roughly at or slower than his splits.
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Strange that there is no mobile signal after Great Shunner Fell since 08.54, not normally a problem.
No sooner posted this then it has woken up again but lack of detail until after Thwaite.
I can't understand why there were previously no intermediate times between Great Shunner Fell until the one at Thwaite but now they are recorded. If they were recorded on the GPS system he was carrying why didn't they show when he got to Thwaites. Absolutely not doubting he walked it but can't understand the technology.
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He is now at Low Birk Hat which I calculate is half way, taking into account the excursion to The Cheviot, taking him 27 hours 33 minutes.
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He is now at Low Birk Hat which I calculate is half way, taking into account the excursion to The Cheviot, taking him 27 hours 33 minutes.
Mike Cudahy gave High Birk Hat as the halfway point and reached that point in around 30 hours when he broke the three day barrier in 1984.John has got to average at least 3.7 mph for the second part if he is to knock an hour off the record.
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John has passed through the 'boglands', between Tan Hills and the Reservoirs.... that will have limited his speed.
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Just tried to work out why he appears to have taken 3 hours to get from MIT to the turn off near Langdon Beck, he appears to have spent about 80 minutes at MIT - there is a good café just up the road on the left! He was 40 minutes down on his schedule at Cauldron Snout whereas he had been c. 90 minutes up earlier in the challenge.
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His support vehicle was there, so assume he rested/slept ready for the next big overnight stint.
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I wonder if his splits are just worked out by miles or if they take in to account where he was planning to pause.
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His schedule would get him into KY in 2 days 12 hours 22 minutes. The record being 2 days 17 hours 20 minutes so he has about 5 hours leeway to beat the record.
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I was just wondering if he planned to stop there or, worryingly, if it was unscheduled.
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I wonder if his splits are just worked out by miles or if they take in to account where he was planning to pause.
I think that they must have taken some account into the amount of ascent and the fact that he would be getting tired towards the end as they have estimated about 8 hours for the 29 miles from Byrness to KY via the Cheviot. They estimated 5 hours 30 minutes from Edale to Standedge which is C. 26 miles at the start.
To be honest I am so impressed with these athletes I did wonder whether he would stop/rest at all!
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Back to 18 minutes down at Dufton. I think the radar station has upset his tracking device, I seem to remember this has happened before around here in the Spine.
Edit: Just thought it could be the Chinese!
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Hard to say how he is doing.Bit surprised by the rest at MIT and it makes me wonder if he is suffering from foot problems or exhaustion.Probably both!
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Well things have changed over night, he's now 3 hours down. That's worrying.
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It will be interesting to see how he goes along Hadrian's Wall.
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I don't envy him as he goes across the commons down to Greenhead, the weather is wet and miserable here at the moment.
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It looks as though it is going to get heavier in one/two hours time!
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He seems to be losing an hour for every ten miles that he covers.Things seem to have gone wrong from the top of Cross Fell onwards.To beat the record he has got to average around 3.7mph which is a bit of a tall order at this stage.Pavel managed to get to Greenhead in just over two days but then retired as he knew it would be impossible to break the record.
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I wonder if Greenhead will be the end for John too. If he knows he can't threaten the record I doubt he'll carry on.
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However he hasn't lost any time against his schedule on this leg. I guess it will depend upon how he feels but he is immensely strong in body and mind so unless he has an injury I think he will carry on after all he "only" has about 70 miles to go! ;D
Edit:He is carrying on after a very short break at Greenhead so I'm going for a walk and catch up on his progress in an hour or so.
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I wonder if Greenhead will be the end for John too. If he knows he can't threaten the record I doubt he'll carry on.
Whatever happens its still a fine performance,over 200 miles of the Pennine Way in two days.He seems to have picked up pace again and might have clawed back 30 mins by the time he reaches Steele Crag.
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Well he's starting to pull it back
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According to a Twitter feed from one of his road support he has been having stomach issues and felt unwell hence the 40 mins sleep at Middleton still not so good at dufton but managed to eat something feeling a bit better. He is still on for the record, going ok along the wall. Current schedule gets him to KY approx 1am. Come on John urging the dots onwards.
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Just made a good distance after leaving Hadrian's Wall and "relatively" flat now for quite a time although could be "damp". I still have my faith in him breaking the record.
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I still have my faith in him breaking the record.
Pretty sure he is going to do it as he seems to have recovered from his previous problems.He is still going at 2 days 15 hours pace.
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You keen dot watchers are more up on how these record attempts work, just checking....
... It states he needs to be in Kirk Yetholm before 3.20 on Thursday morning.
... His spilts show arrival at KY as 22.22 Wednesday, so he has about five hours in hand over current record.
... He has currently just gone through Bellingham at 14.20, split says 11.35, so he is less than three hours behind this, but still within
chance of beating record time. Is that correct?
John is still going so must have belief in himself.
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The quick answer is yes, hopefully he will set a new record although I thought he would beat it by a lot more after the first few hours.
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Lost 35 minutes on that treck from Bellingham, they have only scheduled 30 minutes to get to the road before Padon Hill which I don't think is enough so he will be further behind.
Edit: Whilst he had a short rest he has continued but he seems to have gone slightly off course before Lord's Shaw, it may be due to the conditions.
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Looks like he is heading back to the path.
He is still loosing time on every section, I hope he has enough time and energy left to make it.
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Yes another 28 minutes down on this leg, so 3 hours 49 minutes down on schedule, so he has just over an hour to play with. My earlier confidence is waning. However he is continuing. About 9 miles to Byrness and they have scheduled 95 minutes!
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I think I read somewhere that he intended to finish the run even if he couldn't make the record, because of the fundraising part of the challenge. It looks as if it might be a bit close.
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I think I read somewhere that he intended to finish the run even if he couldn't make the record, because of the fundraising part of the challenge. It looks as if it might be a bit close.
Even Joss Naylor had trouble with this run.He was inside 3 days at Crowden but slowed on Kinder as he neared the finish and ended up with a time of 3 days 4 hours.I was walking the Pennine Way at the time that Mike Hartley set his record.Conditions were almost perfect even though we did have a heatwave at the time.It was the easiest time I have had on the Pennine Way and also my best finish time,albeit a week and bit slower than Mike! The peat was carpet like and this was the year before the stones were put down so it was easier on the feet. If John has had to face poor conditions on the ground its not surprsing he is starting to struggle a bit.
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He seems to have been running/jogging a bit on this stage. If he can leave Byrness with 8 hours to get to KY then perhaps the challenge is still on.
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He is at Byrness with 8 hours 40 to get to Kirk Yetholm if he is going to take the record.
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At 18.51 he is off "up" out of Byrness and has until 03.20 to get to KY.
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At 18.51 he is off "up" out of Byrness and has until 03.20 to get to KY.
Loads of time then! ;D
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Thanks for the updates during this afternoon folks. I hope he makes it, I wish I could stay up but I do need some sleep before work :)
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Loads of time then! ;D
Provided he runs the last six miles at sub 6 min mile pace. ;D
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Just before the Roman Camps is he going the direct route by mistake?
I presume that there was a failure in the recording of the tracking system and that he did go through the checkpoint. Also now just over 3 hours behind schedule, they were obviously envisaging a longer stay at Byrness.
Edit: Tracking now altered to go through the Roman Camps.
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Closing on Lamb Hill before long, only about 20 miles to go! Bet he wishes he didn't have to go up and down the Cheviot before the finish.
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Looks like he had a brief stop at the first refuge hut.
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About 25 minutes.
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Does the record include going up the Cheviot? Could he miss that out?
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No I don't think so. The record included it. With 5 hours to beat the record he has about 17 miles to go.
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Does the record include going up the Cheviot? Could he miss that out?
I believe Mike Hartley included the Cheviot.
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He seems to be walking about 1km every 10 minutes. So 17 miles is just over 27kms that would take him 4 hours 30 minutes not taking into account him sprinting into KY. It will be close but I hope that he makes it but it should leave some room for someone else to go for it next year for our benefit.
Edit: Just thought he has to go down from Auchope Cairn, that was the hardest for me on both my trips - took me ages going down sideways!
2nd Edit: Sorry off to bed, good luck to John you should make it, a great effort that I could never think of doing even in my sleep.
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Well he managed it at 2.46 this morning, so 34 minutes taken off the record. Well done, it obviously it wasn't easy even for him. So that time leaves some room for someone else to try, any takers?
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Amazing achievement. So that time leaves some room for someone else to try, any takers?
Obviously I could but it would be a shame to miss the views while running ;)
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What an achievement!
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Great achievement! O0 I thought he'd just missed out when I saw his tracker at KY last recorded at 3.48! Obviously continued tracking for a while.
If you go to this facebook page you can see him finishing
https://www.facebook.com/SummitFeverMedia/?hc_ref=ARSC1CU09pOWdLsg0loCJ8HTiALCFZyqZG-jfIoQ6PP2g6nFZl5CPWTxr1JS-k2IjiA&fref=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARB_cuoYj31M7uAD76qopuD9FE_Nzix4EORB0-ldR_78uqOsjH0SUwwxEo3Ri-3hhVig0kF-CfNTcn6_9U7LCzhjZmPkk5L7hhBrgH0RFtdzDbvdrTGoD0k51gi6Xmc9WRGiixradocUxcAXH3lMiBT9UV1fqeh2SHolnS3ZOxsftaZX_ezWzaNdrQvY-GuA-hgJyaplvxIN7vzlQo-tu72Ud2-sdULov-qIGs0PzYvURqcTpf3H-BnorMHIALNiFbFpivMgwiQqn1Q9wxu0gfn0OJSPol8X5cLnQtSxvyNYmBBtFRBffqpkPgnvm0CgMxdcje3yUHJdgVpWnaVQS_XVUc32tIYpJKkq6g&__tn__=kC-R (https://www.facebook.com/SummitFeverMedia/?hc_ref=ARSC1CU09pOWdLsg0loCJ8HTiALCFZyqZG-jfIoQ6PP2g6nFZl5CPWTxr1JS-k2IjiA&fref=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARB_cuoYj31M7uAD76qopuD9FE_Nzix4EORB0-ldR_78uqOsjH0SUwwxEo3Ri-3hhVig0kF-CfNTcn6_9U7LCzhjZmPkk5L7hhBrgH0RFtdzDbvdrTGoD0k51gi6Xmc9WRGiixradocUxcAXH3lMiBT9UV1fqeh2SHolnS3ZOxsftaZX_ezWzaNdrQvY-GuA-hgJyaplvxIN7vzlQo-tu72Ud2-sdULov-qIGs0PzYvURqcTpf3H-BnorMHIALNiFbFpivMgwiQqn1Q9wxu0gfn0OJSPol8X5cLnQtSxvyNYmBBtFRBffqpkPgnvm0CgMxdcje3yUHJdgVpWnaVQS_XVUc32tIYpJKkq6g&__tn__=kC-R)
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He really pushed himself over the last ten miles and at one point it looked like he was going to run out of time but a very quick run to the Cheviot and back helped him claw back some time.A fine performance by a world class athlete.
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Congratulations John on your Pennine record! He'll be thinking like Sabrina 'Next year I can beat that time'! maybe just maybe...
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I did notice this morning he had beat the record, incredible speed for the last bit over the border ridge O0
Amazing athlete, well all of them are. I would struggle doing even 20 miles in one day never mind doing it again the next day.
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John has now posted his report of the Pennine Way. Makes for very interesting reading. What a determined man, how he kept going to get the record is amazing. Well done John is all I can say and well deserved.
https://randomforestrunner.com/2020/07/a-new-pennine-way-record/#more-25779 (https://randomforestrunner.com/2020/07/a-new-pennine-way-record/#more-25779)
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A good read, thanks for the link.
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Yes a good read and understand the issues he had. I still wonder why he went a different way at Malham albeit no shorter then the usual route.
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Yes a good read and understand the issues he had. I still wonder why he went a different way at Malham albeit no shorter then the usual route.
Which way did he go at Malham?
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Which way did he go at Malham?
Instead of going up the main road and through the gate on the right to approach the cove I think he went over the bridge in Malham (see below), but definitely he then went up the road that is the first left to then cross Malham Beck later and then to join the "normal" route to go up and over the cove. No shorter but I couldn't understand why he went that way, it must have been deliberate.
I can't recall if he stayed to the right of the beck approaching Malham and then went up the road or whether he joined the main Malham road and then went over the bridge to go up the minor road on the left.
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Which way did he go at Malham?
The track is still on line if you go to Malham you can see where he went on the map.
https://live.opentracking.co.uk/johnpennine20/ (https://live.opentracking.co.uk/johnpennine20/)
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Harland, yes I see what you mean. No idea why he went that way, can only think one of his pacers suggested it, there is clearly a path that way.
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How are your hips Slogger? OK I hope.