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Title: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: Peter on 21:58:31, 03/03/18


https://youtu.be/-5Zz5DPimD0 (https://youtu.be/-5Zz5DPimD0)
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: sussamb on 07:08:52, 04/03/18
This is far easier https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/p/beyond-the-beaten-track-hot-meal-kit-all-day-breakfast-E6214011.html?colour=3580
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: fernman on 09:06:27, 04/03/18
No picture or price, sussamb, is it no longer available?

The list of ingredients looks like the contents of a kids' chemistry set.

But it includes a wet wipe for Welsh Rambler! (As in thread "The little things that make hiking so much better".)
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: alan de enfield on 09:13:15, 04/03/18


But it includes a wet wipe for Welsh Rambler!




Is that a good deal ?
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: sussamb on 09:39:19, 04/03/18
No picture or price, sussamb, is it no longer available?


Picture shows for me and yes, still available.  Used them on Pennine Way last year, about £4 iirc, although Cotswold price is £6.
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: fernman on 10:37:07, 04/03/18
Picture shows for me and yes, still available.

Thanks. It must be my XP netbook, still not showing. I'll look on the 8.1 desktop tomorrow, my source of income is doing her invoices on it today.
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: KimE on 11:36:40, 04/03/18
300g for one meal makes a heavy 7 day trip. Environment friendly magnesium or aluminium heating?
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: sussamb on 12:02:26, 04/03/18
Only needed them for a couple of meals, so not much difference between having to add stove etc.  I agree they're not a solution if you intend to cook throughout a long trip.
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: mananddog on 13:35:10, 04/03/18
Some thoughtful soul had left one of the self heating meals in Ben Alder cottage bothy, a breakfast of sausage, bacon, beans and a weird eggy thing,  so I helped myself to it - it was pretty good but the heating process is a little alarming - I would not want to do  it in a tent.
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: fernman on 14:07:44, 04/03/18
300g for one meal makes a heavy 7 day trip.

As well as the weight, I think I'd get a bit bored with All Day Breakfast every day for a week! It would make a nice change from sandwiches on a cold day walk, though.

(Kim, are you Scandinavians familiar with the "Full English Breakfast", or do you only know smorgasbord?)
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: Ridge on 14:19:23, 04/03/18
They do other meal too as well as Full English and Vegi breakfasts
http://www.beyondthebeatentrack.com/hot-meal-kits.html (http://www.beyondthebeatentrack.com/hot-meal-kits.html)


and they also do the heating packs without the food which is similar to the original post.
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: Mel on 15:56:45, 04/03/18
The item in Peter's link seems to be modern take on the cotswolds one, You get five heaty uppy things and a rolluppable reusable container but no food.  Taking your own food to heat up is instantly better for you than the chemical infused dogsick in a bag meals (in my humblest of opinions  :D  ).


Pity Peter's link doesn't seem to give a price  :(
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: jimbob on 16:09:33, 04/03/18
Ah Mel.  I take it you have not actually tried one of these meals yet then. They get better each year. It takes a very special type of factory to ruin beans and sausages. Sussamb is probably aware the forces have been using them for years. I believe that they have their place and it is handy to keep at least one in the knapsack  for one of those just in case moments. Safer to heat one of these up in a coffin tent than using a jet boil.             . (P.s. Mince and dumplings edible also.)
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: Mel on 16:14:02, 04/03/18
Sorry, can't help but think Fray Bentos pies....


(even my cat won't eat those!)


You're right though, I shouldn't knock it if I've not tried it  :-\


I still prefer Peter's link and take my own food though  :)   
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: jimbob on 16:20:02, 04/03/18
Baked beans are the ultimate in camping food. Filling, nutritious, and with the ability to taste, well, taste like baked beans. Their trye strength  lies in their  ability to smother the taste in other foodstuffs.  For example Tinned pies and baked beans.  O0 Couscous and baked beans.  :-X Two day old hard boiled egg and baked beans. :-[ The stealth ninja of stove top food is the baked bean.
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: Mel on 16:31:21, 04/03/18
You've obviously not eaten Heinz baked beans recently!  They taste of nowt unless you put the sugar and salt back into them that they took out to make them "healthy"  ;D




.... I remain to be convinced .....
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: sussamb on 19:27:38, 04/03/18
Sussamb is probably aware the forces have been using them for years.


 O0
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: sussamb on 19:29:01, 04/03/18
Mel, nothing to do with taste ... It's the calories they contain that's important  ;)
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: Welsh Rambler on 21:01:55, 04/03/18
No picture or price, sussamb, is it no longer available?

The list of ingredients looks like the contents of a kids' chemistry set.

But it includes a wet wipe for Welsh Rambler! (As in thread "The little things that make hiking so much better".)
I might try one of these kits, I've never thought before of having a heated wet wipe but it sounds like luxury  :D
Regards Keith
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: jontea on 21:14:57, 04/03/18
I personally wouldn’t touch this form of convenience food, preferring to take natural foods into the hills.
As a person with Crohn’s Disease (bowel disorder) I’m very sceptical of such a product, and feel they are far from healthy having read the ingredients  :o


I guess for most healthy folk, one or two meals every now and then may be okay, but an argument for process foods affecting the gut is growing in the western world.


Most peeps don’t give their intestines a second thought, but is this complicated organ really designed to process these chemicals?


Just my opinion  :)
Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
Post by: Stube on 09:50:25, 05/03/18
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    Thanks. It must be my XP netbook, still not showing. I'll look on the 8.1 desktop tomorrow, my source of income is doing her invoices on it today. 

    Fernman: It displays correctly on my XP notebook - but I do use Firefox as a browser.
       
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: fernman on 13:04:10, 05/03/18
    Thanks, Stube, mine's Pale Moon, which is FireFox wearing a different hat. Never mind, I've seen the product on the 8.1 desktop pc now.

    With my cooking skills being non-existant I'm thinking about buying one or two of the meals for dinners in base camp. They would make a change from freeze dried packets, although by comparison with those they seem to be a bit low in calories for a growing lad like me ::) .
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: MichaelUK on 16:34:50, 05/03/18
    I bought myself a food flask, 500ml. Doesnt keep the food as hot as I would like, but warm enough to enjoy. Im experimenting with various home made and bought meals, and how to keep them hotter. I pre warm the flask and heat the food in the microwave without burning it. Ive seen one that can be used in the microwave, hopefully the food would be hotter after several hours. My day walks dont warrant a stove, usually 7 - 8 hours.
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: Mel on 18:12:35, 05/03/18
    Mel, nothing to do with taste ... It's the calories they contain that's important  ;)


    I'm sure if I'd done a hard day's walking and dogsick in a bag was all that was on offer then it would taste bluddi wonderful but, then again, so would cake, which also has lots of calories and doesn't require a stove  :D   :-[
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: jimbob on 18:17:54, 05/03/18
    Just as well our forces don't  think their reward for doing what they do is a bag of dog sick. 

    As you said before you haven't  tried it. I can assure you that Heinz have not got their mits on the yummy beans.

    The stew and dumplings are great as well.
    There us even a way to use the heat pa ks to make water hot enough for a coffee or hot chocolate. Not hot enough for tea though, which is surprising given the inventiveness  of our army lads n lasses.
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: Mel on 18:41:15, 05/03/18
    ... but an argument for process foods affecting the gut is growing in the western world....their intestines a second thought, but is this complicated organ really designed to process these chemicals?


    I've believed this for a long time.  Most of my food is home cooked from scratch because I feel quite strongly about that particular subject if I'm honest. 


    jimbob - the water doesn't get hot enough to make a cup of tea?  :o   Sacrilege  :knuppel2:    
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: sussamb on 18:52:32, 05/03/18
    As you said before you haven't  tried it. I can assure you that Heinz have not got their mits on the yummy beans.

    Agreed ... doesn't taste too bad, and very welcome when you're hungry  O0
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: jimbob on 19:02:48, 05/03/18
    Proper tea needs water at100 deg c.
    So if you're  up high or using a rat pack heater then you are unlikelet to achieve that temperature. However. If you get tea from many cafes etc nowadays  they are likely to use one of those pressure coffee machine to make the hot water.  It us rarely if ever at the correct temperature. (The hint is on the word pressure) If you can cope with that then yes they can make a hot drink making use of a teabag to colour the water as so many cages serve these days.

    Rat packs are ace and carrying one for emergencies is a sensible thing to do in my opinion. You can purchase all sorts of kits from armies all around the world.  Still to find a US MRE with ice cream though. That would be my holy grail.
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: photonut on 11:09:31, 07/03/18
    Having just looked at these self heating meals, it seems the 'heater bag' carries a Dangerous Goods Classification:

    "This is a hazardous good classed as a class 4.3"

    Does this mean you need to have the appropriate DG label on your rucksack?  :D
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: barewirewalker on 12:11:09, 07/03/18
    Having just looked at these self heating meals, it seems the 'heater bag' carries a Dangerous Goods Classification:

    "This is a hazardous good classed as a class 4.3"

    Does this mean you need to have the appropriate DG label on your rucksack?  :D


    Just make sure no one steals it, otherwise they might sue you.


    Plenty of lawyers out there advertising for just that sort of windfall.
    Title: Re: Hot food without a stove..
    Post by: KimE on 21:58:50, 07/03/18
    [font=]"Kim, are you Scandinavians familiar with the "Full English Breakfast", or do you only know smorgasbord?"
    [font=]Yes i know what English breakfast is and its not something i would eat in the morning. I prefer boiled coffee and a sandwich or porage. The original smörgåsbord have plenty of strong liquir(brännvin/Aquavit) so i prefer to have it later on the day.

    Traditional Swedish outdoors meal Kolbulle cooked without a stove.
     https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=xHRj4q2J&id=5DD1D9C62E80D28A4DA180330D8DB3326513D6D6&thid=OIP.xHRj4q2Jx__BB6Ufz95opQHaE6&q=kolbulle&simid=608026569336030922&selectedIndex=97&ajaxhist=0