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Title: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: fernman on 14:45:04, 25/11/18
My question is prompted by someone asking on the forum for suggestions for wild camping spots for a walk he is planning. I'm not having a go at him, for his query is not the first I've seen like this on here, and there is also someone whose blog I follow who always seems to be mentally noting suitable spots he passes, for possible use in the future.

On my multiple-day walks I simply look out for somewhere suitable on my route, or close to it, in the late afternoon / early evening. I do tend to look at my map to see what might be ahead in the way of streams or a pool. My priorities are water close by, shelter, a flat and dry bit big enough for my tent, and privacy. As I always wild camp in north Wales, water is rarely a problem but 'flat' and 'dry' often are problematic, while shelter can sometimes be tricky to find.

What I don't do is walk to a pre-determined objective with the intention of camping there. The only reason for doing this that I can think of would be in areas where water isn't so easy to find. I am genuinely puzzled by this, I just don't get it. Am I missing something or what?
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Ridge on 14:55:50, 25/11/18
Possibly what you are missing is the inexperience.
You know how to interpret the map to show an area which may have possibilities of a camp site and you also know that, whatever happens, you'll eventually find something acceptable.
Having wild camped from my early teens, initially with grown-ups and then on my own, it holds no fears. I can see that if it is the first time you've ever tried it you may want to have all your ducks in a row before you set off.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: forgotmyoldpassword on 15:25:18, 25/11/18
Confirmation bias.  It is why many 'trails' are getting so busy.  People love to be able to say 'this is a safe route, it will be fun, others use it if I get injured and I will get help easily'.  As other posters say it is also very accessible, you don't need to be able to interpret maps nor have much knowledge of the wilderness at all - it is a bit of a theme-park ride experience.  'Exciting' but realistically nothing bad is going to happen to, or if it does then others will bail you out.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: vghikers on 15:41:55, 25/11/18
Indeed. I can't help but sigh when that question comes up and it gets rather annoying after a while. I always feel like replying 'Any tent-sized reasonably flat piece of dry land'.
I just design my overall route and the number of days, look at the contours and make sure the breakpoints are in promising flattish areas. Once there it's almost always easy to survey the overall scene and head for a spot.
Occasionally on our backpacks we pass a spot looks particularly promising scenery-wise for photos, and back home I might start with that and design a future route around it.

The general terrain is also important for areas you've never walked, as we discovered early on when we had to pitch once on knee-deep heather (an interesting experience) and in a commercial Welsh forest (avoid: trust me). Geograph (https://www.geograph.org.uk/) can help a lot here, we are registered there and use it all the time.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: jimbob on 16:19:24, 25/11/18
I thought it was down to those that wanted to do the camping bit without too much of a walk.
YouTube is full of them. They validate a place which is known not to receive the attention of gamekeeper,  rangers, farmers, etc.Get here eith everything bar the kitchen sink and waste good walking time setting up their "prepper" camp site. The next day they walk back to their conveniently parked vehicle and drive home.

When I am walking I never decide were I'm stopping for the night until  I decide it's about time to pack in for the day. Usually now in my case that is not too far off a hot meal provider. I find the sat maps on VR quite good to get a decent place.
Asking for a site reeks of cart before horse.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Ridge on 16:32:46, 25/11/18
I think we could be being a little unkind here. As has been said there is always somewhere to camp but there are also some places which are better than others.
Those places with a soft level pitch on a sheep cropped lawn. Where a clear brook, deep enough to rest your tired feet in the freezing water, babbles past the tent door. A small rocky outcrop behind the tent offers it shelter and for you a seat as the sun sinks below the hills. A little way off a small copse of trees, in case you need to make like a bear.
You may not be prepared to tell others your favorite secret camping place but you can't blame them for asking.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: alan de enfield on 16:33:53, 25/11/18
I will look before departure and estimate the area where I am likely to be, having walked however far I am planning to walk by the 'end of the day'.
Just a look on the map for the general area checking the likely terrain, availability of water etc.

It is just part of the planning and thinking about 'eventualities'.


"On the day" nothing is 'fixed' and if a perfect site' is reached earlier than the one 'looked at' then I stop. If the 'planned' area proves to be unsuitable then carry on.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: archaeoroutes on 17:27:09, 25/11/18
I usually plan where I want to camp.
If I don't make it there, or find somewhere better first, or decide it isn't what I'd hoped and move further, then I'm perfectly capable of finding somewhere else. However, I am one of those people who likes to have an objective for the end of the day.

I can well understand someone wanting suggestions. Things such as view, possible water, flat ground can often be got from a map, but there are plenty of things that can make a brilliant spot that aren't readily apparent. Perhaps there is a brilliant pool for swimming, perhaps there is something particularly nice to look at. Or perhaps the noise from a waterfall will keep you awake or a shepherd comes through every morning at 4am on his quad bike.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: bricam2096 on 17:50:44, 25/11/18
Blimey...I was going to ask the forum members on suggestions on places to wildcamp next summer in the Lakes as I've never done it and fancy it and figured that the members would be able to give good suggestions.

Maybe I best not bother  :P
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: gunwharfman on 17:53:26, 25/11/18
I don't plan in advance where I might wild camp but sometimes, in villages or perhaps on the edge of towns, its usefull to have an inkling of where others have wild camped before. For example I walked into Bera on the Spanish GR11 and by chance found a great spot with drinking water just on the edge of town, about half a kilometre from a bar. I'm happy to pass on my suggestion to anyone who might be interested. I did at the time, I saw a young couple looking for a spot so I directed them to there. We all had a good nights sleep and really took advantage of the free water the next morning. Or the time I walked along the Cotswold Way and found a marvellous spot next to a cricket pavilion, the pub was just down the road. The last time I wild camped was in Peasmarsh in Sussex. I carefully looked for a spot before it got dark, went to the pub for a pint and a meal and then walked back to camp. The area looked completely different in the dark so I wild camped in another place nearby!
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Owen on 18:05:43, 25/11/18
I think it's just inexperience and lack of confidence that leads people to ask on the tinternet. When you've been doing it all year round, year in year out since you were a nipper it's difficult to see things through a biginners eyes. If you've never done it before you often need a little pointer on the right direction.


Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Maggot on 18:14:35, 25/11/18
Basically this thread boils down to "Why do people ask for advice?" 


Well it is because they respect the contributors on here and would like to pick their brains to save some time and know an area is safe.  Surely the question could also be asked of "Why do people ask about coats/boots/gloves/bags/socks?  Why they don't just get some of their own and see what they are like?"


I am assuming that fernman does not have any guide books, camping site guides, gear reviews etc?  After all, why follow a pre-determined trail when you only have to get a map and go for a walk?
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: fernman on 18:16:58, 25/11/18
Blimey...I was going to ask the forum members on suggestions on places to wildcamp next summer in the Lakes as I've never done it and fancy it and figured that the members would be able to give good suggestions.

Maybe I best not bother  :P

Don't let us stop you asking! Each to their own devices, I say. Like I wrote, I wasn't criticising anyone for doing it, I just wanted to get a clear idea in my blinkered head as to why they ask, and now I know.

Thanks to everyone for the replies so far, and keep them coming! It's very interesting to read others' views.

GWM, you must be an early riser (unlike me) for you ran the risk of being discovered by the cricket team arriving for a match! I once pitched on the edge of a fishing club's lake; having been an angler myself in the past I know how early they can start, so I was apprehensive of being sent on my way. Fortunately (in an obscure way) it was a lousy day and no-one turned up.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: fernman on 18:22:22, 25/11/18
I am assuming that fernman does not have any guide books, camping site guides, gear reviews etc?  After all, why follow a pre-determined trail when you only have to get a map and go for a walk?

I can answer that one! Where I do long walks a lot of the RoWs shown on the map don't exist on the ground. I found that out pretty quickly in my early days when I used to make up my own routes. If someone else has already walked a route and published it in a book, a magazine or online, then at least you know it is 'doable'.

It's a lazy way of doing day walks as well. The Chilterns must have one of the best maintained and signed networks of footpaths in the country, I'm guessing, so it would be easy to go there and make up a walk from a map. But if you use a guidebook it saves a lot of faffing about if you know beforehand exactly how many miles it is and what points of interest there are (and pubs!).   
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Maggot on 18:28:03, 25/11/18
I can answer that one! Where I do long walks a lot of the RoWs shown on the map don't exist on the ground. I found that out pretty quickly in my early days when I used to make up my own routes. If someone else has already walked a route and published it in a book, a magazine or online, then at least you know it is 'doable'.


So if someone has already walked a route, then you know it is safe, reasonable and a sensible choice?  A bit like someone asking if a certain place is suitable for a wild camp, or where someone might spend a night if they are travelling a certain route?
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: fernman on 18:36:45, 25/11/18

So if someone has already walked a route, then you know it is safe, reasonable and a sensible choice?  A bit like someone asking if a certain place is suitable for a wild camp, or where someone might spend a night if they are travelling a certain route?

Can't say I would totally agree with that, some people follow routes in the mountains that I wouldn't copy - look at the recent thread on Crib Goch Foxes Path for example, or the Bochlwyd Horseshoe. I'm thinking more of moderately comfortable walking on some sort of a path rather than ploughing through dense grass tussocks, thigh-deep heather, across marshes or forcing a way through overgrown forestry plantations where the map claims there is a path.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Jac on 07:57:19, 26/11/18
I've only wild camped on the SWCP where murphy's law dictates that you pass the best camp spots far too early in the day to stop >:(

On the Pembrokeshire cast path we fell in talking with a young couple who were finding the camp sites expensive. Just wild camp we suggested. They were doubtful - isn't it illegal - but when we happened to meet up at a pub a couple of days later  they were firm converts :) 
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: jimbob on 08:21:02, 26/11/18
There is a huge difference in stating that you are going on a particular walk and does anyone know the best places to wild camp along that route so as you can set a rough target for the walk.

It's another completely strange thing to just ask about spots without mentioning the target walk.
Anyway there a a huge number of TRS on this site that mention great places to camp. And also a thread where people can mention their favourite spots. The search bar on the forum is always a great place to start.
For example, thanks to an ancient thread I was able to work out which binoculars to consider.


Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: April on 12:42:33, 26/11/18
I always plan where I hope to wild camp. The walks are planned around that spot including the bus times to the start and from the finish with a plan b and c maybe as backup. We want it all when we camp, a flat pitch, a great view,  a sunset view, shelter from the wind and hopefully close to a water source. We don't always get all of these things or pitch where I'd planned but I personally would feel slightly anxious all day if I had no idea of where we would be pitching the tent.

I also see places where I think would be good for future camping spots. Not sure why some people would think this is wrong?  :-\ I don't have any issue with people doing short walks to a wild camping spot either. Each to his own, some people prefer the camping part and a shorter walk some people prefer walking longer distances. It is the same with walking isn't it, some people like shorter walks than others.

I have no problem with people asking for wild camping spots. Surely it is best to be prepared in advance if you are unsure or have never been wild camping before? The same with people going out walking on the hills, perhaps for the first time or asking advice about unknown routes is a sensible thing to do? How many times do we hear of folk going out without preparing properly for what is ahead?
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: forgotmyoldpassword on 13:03:06, 26/11/18
Blimey...I was going to ask the forum members on suggestions on places to wildcamp next summer in the Lakes as I've never done it and fancy it and figured that the members would be able to give good suggestions.

Maybe I best not bother  :P


No, this is a good idea, something like "I'm planning to do the north western fells, any great wild camping spots you'd recommend near x?" open the door to people pointing out the little gems and are often happy to do so.  And in the case of the Lakes in summer you can find some great little wild camps near tarns - sure you won't have them by yourself on a weekend.


My point was more that half the fun of the outdoors, especially in poor weather, is not having everything in front of you planned and regimented.  If you're walking a long distance path in the UK it is different as the route is laid out in front of you and there isn't much deviation possible - but for me there is a joy to navigating on the fly, changing your route or camp-site based on conditions and how your body is feeling.  Sure, you want a rough idea where you can find a good camp site, but having a look at the map and being able to see three of four options and change your plan as you arrive (especially if they're overcrowded or not as you expected) is a skill worth developing.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: vghikers on 17:05:32, 26/11/18
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No, this is a good idea, something like "I'm planning to do the north western fells, any great wild camping spots you'd recommend near x?" open the door to people pointing out the little gems and are often happy to do so.
Which immediately makes them no longer little gems because everybody knows about them. Their very mention here will attract people.
It's not a good idea. The great pleasure is in finding your own spots in the area you plan to finish the day, we've found many great ones without any prior knowledge.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: fit old bird on 17:28:56, 26/11/18
Finding a place to camp must be a lot easier than finding a place to park overnight in a lorry. I remember my first night out, sleeping across the seats in a small Bedford TK rigid, loaded with doors and window frames. I had done some deliveries in the Stoke area and went off towards North Wales. Come 6pm, where do I park, I didn't know where any of the lorry parks were. I headed off into Nantwich, picked up some food from a shop, and went into a car park in the town centre.


It didn't feel right not going home, I was lost and lonely, how safe would I be what happens if someone bothers me. I drove the lorry into a corner shielded by a hedge on two sides, put newspapers up on the windows on the other two sides, locked myself in and didn't dare get out of the cab. Well, I had to just once, to have a pee. I hardly slept at all that first night.


I can understand why people are nervous about finding a safe place to camp. I haven't done it, not brave enough, preferring to go on a proper camp site.


ilona
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: richardh1905 on 08:03:52, 27/11/18

I can understand that those who are inexperienced perhaps want the security of knowing there is a 'good spot' for them to aim for before they venture out. And also in most of England and Wales there is the added complication of having to find somewhere discreet. So don't be too hard on them.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: NeilC on 10:38:00, 27/11/18
Which immediately makes them no longer little gems because everybody knows about them. Their very mention here will attract people.
It's not a good idea. The great pleasure is in finding your own spots in the area you plan to finish the day, we've found many great ones without any prior knowledge.


There's truth to this. Just one mention on the internet can be enough to make a spot popular as it shows up on Google searches. If you have found a great spot that is nice and quiet then you'd be foolish to post it on an open forum, unless you're happy for it to become popular and be in use the next time you turn up to it.



Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: phil1960 on 13:08:06, 27/11/18
I don’t camp, period. But that doesn’t mean I can’t recognise a decent looking camp site when I see one, should anyone ask my advice on an area well known to me I’m happy to give it. I’m a little surprised that one or two here are not so happy about doing the same for those less experienced, isn’t giving advice part of what the forum is for? I do get the point of quiet places becoming less quiet, but maybe a private message rather than on the open forum then? I have done this for people when requested and will continue to do so.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: NeilC on 08:09:30, 28/11/18
I don’t camp, period. But that doesn’t mean I can’t recognise a decent looking camp site when I see one, should anyone ask my advice on an area well known to me I’m happy to give it. I’m a little surprised that one or two here are not so happy about doing the same for those less experienced, isn’t giving advice part of what the forum is for? I do get the point of quiet places becoming less quiet, but maybe a private message rather than on the open forum then? I have done this for people when requested and will continue to do so.


Indeed and I've had similar tips, via PM, from people myself.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: rosam on 17:04:30, 28/02/19
Having wild camp for the first time ever in my life last week, I can understand why people would want to ask experienced hikers / campers where to go.


I planned my spots, I looked at the maps, I checked online, I calculated mileages, I thought about water. However as a inexperienced woman walking solo, in February I did not fancy walking in the dark. I have never done anything like this before and despite all my research my spots where not as good as I hoped for. I did not take into consideration shelter, or views. I couldn't find a spot with water nearby (just carried more until the next tap/ water source) What it looked ok in my map was not so perfect in reality (I'm a beginner a map reading too but not totally useless) Overall, I was glad to have planned in advance but even then it wasn't perfect.
Should I have asked people for good spots? maybe, but I didn't and I survived. However it would have been more enjoyable experience if I had known better areas to camp, that's for sure.
So I don't think it is a bad thing for people asking about good spots to camp. Nothing wrong with it.

Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: fernman on 18:07:37, 28/02/19
Interesting, Roseam. What area of the country was it, roughly?
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: vghikers on 19:27:18, 28/02/19
@Rosam,
I assume you have done plenty of hillwalking as day walks before that venture, so tackle it the other way round: the advice I often give first-timers is to scout good pitch spots on day walks and then design a two-day route centred on one of them, planning to finish there at the end of day one. It's a simple and reliable way to learn the basics.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: April on 08:58:27, 01/03/19
Good advice from vghikers  O0

I also look at photos on peoples blogs, websites and trip reports to look at possible pitches. I also do image searches of an area too if I am unfamiliar with it. Good for you for going solo, I do it now and again  :) Feel free to ask on here, most of us are fine with it.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: GnP on 16:01:10, 01/03/19


My point was more that half the fun of the outdoors, especially in poor weather, is not having everything in front of you planned and regimented.  If you're walking a long distance path in the UK it is different as the route is laid out in front of you and there isn't much deviation possible - but for me there is a joy to navigating on the fly, changing your route or camp-site based on conditions and how your body is feeling.
I do think though that beginners (as in most things) also need help or advice or suggestions for wild camps....and maybe when those beginners become more experienced they too can then camp/hike on the fly...we all have to learn at some stage..maybe we forget what it was like to be a novice..ps I still feel like a novice at life..never to late to learn..
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: richardh1905 on 17:00:04, 01/03/19
Satellite imagery is useful too - Google Maps and Bing Maps.

I have a hankering for a night wild camping in Coire Mhic Fhearchair, one of the most spectacular spots imaginable.

Photos:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Coire+Mhic+Fhearchair&FORM=HDRSC2 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Coire+Mhic+Fhearchair&FORM=HDRSC2)

I've been looking at walk descriptions, trip reports, images, satellite but still can't decide whether there is a decent pitch amongst all the rock, scree and heather. Not going to stop me trying sometime though!
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: astaman on 18:29:13, 01/03/19
Satellite imagery is useful too - Google Maps and Bing Maps.

I have a hankering for a night wild camping in Coire Mhic Fhearchair, one of the most spectacular spots imaginable.

Photos:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Coire+Mhic+Fhearchair&FORM=HDRSC2 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Coire+Mhic+Fhearchair&FORM=HDRSC2)

I've been looking at walk descriptions, trip reports, images, satellite but still can't decide whether there is a decent pitch amongst all the rock, scree and heather. Not going to stop me trying sometime though!


Just a quick FIY. I have seen tents near the loch in the Coire although I've never camped there myself Richard. On the general point I don't mind not knowing if there's a decent pitch at the end of the day but all knowledge is useful and forewarned is forearmed. Even my cliches are cliched.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: richardh1905 on 18:32:58, 01/03/19
Thanks astaman, As I said, not knowing would certainly not stop me going, but nice to know of a good spot all the same.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: humansnail on 19:18:48, 01/03/19
Re Richard - [font=]Coire Mhic Fhearchair is an amazing spot!  About a year and a half ago I spent a great night up there. It was mainly the bogginess of the ground that made it a bit tricky to find a spot at first, but there are quite a few good pitches at the far end  - in fact it was very close to that bit of old machinery that popped up on your link. O0  
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Innominate Man on 20:23:08, 01/03/19
........it was very close to that bit of old machinery that popped up on your link. O0
Which unfortunately looks very much like the engine from a crashed aircraft:- A quick google reveals that it was a Lancaster bomber on a training exercise in 1951. It crashed into the butresses. The poor souls onboard all lost their lives and due to the poor conditions it was two months before they were recovered. 
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: andybr on 14:06:45, 02/03/19
Presumably there are four of these engines somewhere in the coire. I came across one years ago which was sat in the bed of a stream in a completely different location to the one in the photograph. The castings were clearly marked as Packard which was confusing but apparently they made Merlin engines under license for Lancaster's.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Doddy on 16:37:07, 02/03/19

I wouldn't give out wild camp sites and have probably used over 300- all different except one.
If popular sites are given out they soon get degraded and the land owners miffed at publicising their land.[/color]  

I would help newbies by asking them to think about the distance likely to be walked each day; look on the maps around that mileage and think about their water needs.[/color]  

I look at my route and seek for somewhere 15 mile on; preferably in woodland for privacy and with a stream sometime before to get water. I like to walk after the clocks have been changed so I can walk into the evening.

Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Slogger on 17:28:19, 02/03/19
I don't generaly ask the question but I do suss terrain out etc from the map beforehand. I like to walk from pre sunrise to sunset to get the miles in, and so have a rough pre-determined idea of where I would want to stop each night. If wanting to average 40 miles a day it is neccesary to know that there is a wild camping possibilty around the 40 mile mark each evening. Some times this just doesn't work out and I end up retreating to a B&B.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: mananddog on 14:45:43, 03/03/19

Sometimes it is handy to have local or inside knowledge, especially in Scotland where you could come to the end of a long weary day without any suitable spots for miles of heather, bog and tussock grass not always apparent on maps or images. In busy places it is handy to have knowledge of places that are a bit out of the way so you can get some privacy.


It does not always work, a friend told me of a nice sheltered spot in the Monadhliaths and the only spot for miles. When I got there I found a dead and very smelly decomposing deer on the spot and I had to walk quite a lot further.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: Snowman on 14:32:23, 10/03/19
I have to say that while I have wild camped, it's not my preference when trekking.   I do try to aim for somewhere with a pub that, with advanced planning, also does accommodation (it's nice to have a pint and something to eat, a shower and a warm bed for the night).   I don't book because I usually do the walks during school term time, so accommodation is often not a problem and I'm not tied to a specific distance each day.   However there are times when there's nowhere, or the pub (or sometimes a B&B or Youth Hostel) is full in which case I walk on another mile or so until I find somewhere quiet.   I do seek permission if it's obvious who the landowner is, but provided you stick to the basic rule and leave the site completely as you found it in the morning, I wouldn't expect, and never have had any issues.   If you strike camp before breakfast, then even if a landowner/ranger does spot you cooking breakfast, then there's nothing to indicate you spent the night there.


Youth Hostels are generally OK since most of them are licensed and do food these days, however the YHA's policy in recent years of closing the more remote hostels to pay for upgrades to city locations has diminished their usefulness.
Title: Re: Why do people want to know wild camping spots in advance of a walk?
Post by: gunwharfman on 14:44:43, 10/03/19
A wild camping suggestion around Keswick would suit me fine, in my opinion the Camping and Caravan Club sites nearby charge a lot of money for a patch of grass!  :)