I went up Sprinkling Tarn with my son in July and mine weighed 35kg!:o Sheezuss, you mean with your son in it??!!.
...but is a target of 20kg too much?Erm, yes, even allowing for excessive luxuries.
I’m a fit and strong 60 year old.
35kg!! :o When I go away for two weeks, carrying all my food and kit, I recon on a 22kg pack. For an overnighter somewhere between 5 and 8kg dependant on how cold it is.Yeah it was a bit heavy, those kitchen sinks weigh a lot though! LOL.
Not much I can do about the wine though.
..... we took wine, steaks, potatoes, a good sized frying pan, ....
Mines about 8 or 9 before food and water.Trust me it I’ll be lighter from now on.
I would have thought 35kg was SAS levels of pack weight!
Should easily be able.to halve it without much thought.
Have you considered moving onto cocaine instead of wine. At 1g it's a lightweighters dream ;-)
Trust me it I’ll be lighter from now on.
I am Ex-Army but won’t claim to be one of those guys and my philosophy when in was avoid carrying anything if a Land Rover was available.
I won’t even comment on your last bit as I hate all of that kind of crap and will stick with a nice Bordeaux despite the weight.
I gathered that, thanks.
It was a joke. I wasn't actually suggesting you take drugs!
I tend to take a dose of rum with me.
I do weigh my self before and after most hikes. I find it very useful for checking I am not dehydrated.
The colour of your pee is the best indicator of whether you're dehydrated or not.
I’m a fit and strong 60 year old.
I've forgotton! I don't weigh my pack anymore, I have now perfected (almost) what my weight will be, its as light as I can get it! I could still strive for lighter stuff but then I say to myself, whats the point, why spend out the money! Even if I shaved off an ounce or two I'm sure I wouldn't notice it anyway.
Weighing your kit as it goes in your sack is a good way of sorting out what you really need and what you can live without. If you're taking things like stake and potatoes maybe you might like to look at some simpler one pot type meals. This will cut down on the weight of ingredients and cooking kit. You don't have to go to the horrors of freeze dry meals for one or two nighter's this book https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moveable-Feasts-What-great-outdoors/dp/1852845341/ref=sr_1_14?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1543414871&sr=1-14&keywords=moveable+feast (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moveable-Feasts-What-great-outdoors/dp/1852845341/ref=sr_1_14?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1543414871&sr=1-14&keywords=moveable+feast) offeres some good ideas.Thanks, I’ve already sourced some boil in the bag meals, Army ration packs to be exact and they have improved a lot since my Army day’s.
I’ve also just bought an Alpkit Titanium pot to boil them in.
Cheers
Bob
Don't buy an Alpkit Koro stove whatever you do :oI’ve already got a couple from my carp fishing days, a Primus Omnifuel, which is a bit heavy but very powerful when used with Coleman fuel but also can use gas cartridges and another small gas one of similar design, probably a Primus as well but I can’t remember the model.
See here
http://www.walkingforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=30901.0 (http://www.walkingforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=30901.0)
The easiest way for me to shed a few kilos for a hike would be to eat less for a week or so.COR please do pass on your diet plan in a separate thread. That would be some serious weight loss. For a normal moderately overweight male to lose kiloS in a week would mean an intake of zero calories with a huge amount of exercise. :)
35kg?I did get bad blisters on my heels, I’ve done a lot of day walking and never had those before and I reckon it was because of the weight.
You run the risk of injury carrying that much, in my opinion. I once carried two foam fire extinguishers each weighing 14kg up a hill to a lighthouse - nearly crippled me despite using one of the best heavy load carrying frames available (Tatonka Lastenkraxe (https://www.tatonka.com/en/Backpacks-Trekking-Backpacks-Lastenkraxe/1130)). I struggled to put on the pack and stand up - never again!
As for what weight I carry for an overnighter - on a solo trip into the Cairngorms last summer my load was 11.0 kg. This didn't impede me when climbing a long steep heather clad slope, but DID throw me off balance somewhat when I was descending steep trackless ground.
You run the risk of injury carrying that much, in my opinion.Agreed, I read somewhere that the maximum safe load for sustained walking is 1/3 of your bodyweight, that sounds about right to me for hillwalking.
On my next short summer trip I'm going to ditch the stove and pans altogether, and just have oatcakes, cheese, kabanos, cereal bars etc. The stove comes with me in winter though!Our regime too, it's winter-only for the stove and just for a hot drink.
I read somewhere that the maximum safe load for sustained walking is 1/3 of your bodyweight, that sounds about right to me for hillwalking.I can safely carry more than most then. I certainly wouldn’t want to carry an additional 1/3 of my body weight uphill.
I'm not sure I could lift a third of my body weight!O0
I did once have the satisfaction of realising that over the previous couple of years I had lost the weight of the rucksack I was carrying. It inspired me to lose another small daysack's worth!
Have you considered hiring native bearers and walking along armed only with a swagger stick? That way you could carry enough for a truly comfortable night and a slap up feed.Fine idea your hired for my next trip to Exmoor. What"s the going rate?
Fine idea your hired for my next trip to Exmoor. What"s the going rate?You honestly cannot afford me and anyway I am fully booked.
there's always a trade-off between weight and "luxury" and you have to make up your own mind - without compromising the essentials
I'm currently looking into a compromise in a slightly heavier tent but much more space (but a hefty price tag)Take a look at the Naturehike tents - very light and cheap.
Take a look at the Naturehike tents - very light and cheap.
Not sure that I would trust them in a winter storm but should be
1) good for 3 season use -
2) they get good reviews.
You honestly cannot afford me and anyway I am fully booked.
My hiking base weight is 5.6kg.The same for one night or 65 (which I have done); i.e one night multiplied by 65. Hiking is different to camping and at 35kg you are camping. Ray Mears has something like that but usually has a mule or kayak to carry it.[/color]What are the items you take that make up the base weight?
I've had it 35 years O0
Prior to that I did own a fixed length version, but lost it after just a couple of years. :(
How d'you manage to lose a big rucksack? ???It is probably hiding with the odd socks.