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Just being curious as to what are the most useful apps for anybody getting started in backpacking (well, starting again after at lest 12 years)
I know an OS map, a compass and the ability to use them both are three essentials, but surely there are some useful / fun apps that can help make a walk more enjoyable / safer
thank you
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I use ViewRanger – the app is free but if you want OS maps on it then you have to pay for those. Wouldn’t call VR “a fun app” as such though but, yes, it's useful.
For a more fun app, I’ve been looking at the Peak Finder app seeing as I’m truly rubbish at identifying what hills I’m looking at.
Then there’s geocaching if you’re after inspiration / reason to explore lesser known places, even local to you. There's quite often bizarre/quirky stuff in the little boxes when you find them.
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Ones I have on my Android
Parkopedia - useful if you are in a town or village you don't know and want to park.
Refill - if you want to have a glass of water or to refill your bottles for free.
FM Radio - I tend to listen to Radio 4 mostly.
Zello - a walkie-talkie to the world. Great for listening in to USA 'rednecks' who are so angry with the world, love their guns, love Mr Trump and are full of conspiracy theories. Great entertainment, very worrying sometimes as well. You can join in with the conversations if you want. You can even create your own free channel, mine is 'UK BACKPACKING.'
RealTime GPS tracker - it works very well.
Google News - I can pick up newspaper news easily.
Kindle - I download books, mostly the classics, they're free. A few paid-for ones as well.
MobileVoip - So I can make my phone calls through the internet.
Windy Maps - a simple easily seen and followed route guide. I use it when I'm in built-up areas, far better than OS maps.
Wikiloc - To find hiking routes when I'm in a place I don't know. It worked fantastically on Gran Canaria and La Palma for me.
National Rail - I use it when I finish my hike and need to get home.
UK Bus Checker - very useful when no trains are nearby. I then use my Bus Pass.
IGN Espace Collaborative - My go-to hiking map when I'm in France. All of the Grande Rondonnee routes are displayed beautifully.
And of course Skype, Whats App, Backcountry Navigator, Last Pass and my banking app.
Looking at my list, it could be judged as overkill?
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Weather forecast is an essential. Surprisingly few good ones are available for Android, the best in my opinion being Accuweather.
Grid reference. A simple, basic app that does nothing more than quickly show you a six or eight digit OS ref pinpointing your exact position at the press of a button, faster and simpler than opening a map app. It will work any time using your phone's built-in gps and does not need any signal. So when you're unsure of where you are you can then check it on a map. Or heaven forbid if you have to call fror help you don't have to give them three words.
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Grid references are too intelligent for me, depending on the app I'm using at the time I just look at a dot or an arrow on my screen, if its there then that's where I am. I'm afraid I'm one of those people who really haven't a clue about grid references and how to use them.
I have that 3 word app on my phone but have never properly looked at it yet.
My Android has a simple built-in weather icon, its always on show on the home page, It usually says, sunny, rain, cloudy, etc. I don't take that much notice of it as always pack my rucksack to cater for all weathers throughout my hiking year which essentially is spring, summer and autumn. Its worked for me to date.
If I have a mishap (always been lucky so far) my plan is to press the Pebbell alarm (if I can) around my neck, that sends an automatic grid reference of where I am to my wife and to my son and if I'm able to talk I can talk to one of them via the Pebbell. Of course the weakness of the plan is that it must have a signal to work.
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Weather forecast is an essential. Surprisingly few good ones are available for Android, the best in my opinion being Accuweather.
Grid reference. A simple, basic app that does nothing more than quickly show you a six or eight digit OS ref pinpointing your exact position at the press of a button, faster and simpler than opening a map app. It will work any time using your phone's built-in gps and does not need any signal. So when you're unsure of where you are you can then check it on a map. Or heaven forbid if you have to call fror help you don't have to give them three words.
That one actually sounds useful, just down loaded it thx. O0
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Ones I have on my Android
Parkopedia - useful if you are in a town or village you don't know and want to park.
Refill - if you want to have a glass of water or to refill your bottles for free.
FM Radio - I tend to listen to Radio 4 mostly.
Zello - a walkie-talkie to the world. Great for listening in to USA 'rednecks' who are so angry with the world, love their guns, love Mr Trump and are full of conspiracy theories. Great entertainment, very worrying sometimes as well. You can join in with the conversations if you want. You can even create your own free channel, mine is 'UK BACKPACKING.'
RealTime GPS tracker - it works very well.
Google News - I can pick up newspaper news easily.
Kindle - I download books, mostly the classics, they're free. A few paid-for ones as well.
MobileVoip - So I can make my phone calls through the internet.
Windy Maps - a simple easily seen and followed route guide. I use it when I'm in built-up areas, far better than OS maps.
Wikiloc - To find hiking routes when I'm in a place I don't know. It worked fantastically on Gran Canaria and La Palma for me.
National Rail - I use it when I finish my hike and need to get home.
UK Bus Checker - very useful when no trains are nearby. I then use my Bus Pass.
IGN Espace Collaborative - My go-to hiking map when I'm in France. All of the Grande Rondonnee routes are displayed beautifully.
And of course Skype, Whats App, Backcountry Navigator, Last Pass and my banking app.
Looking at my list, it could be judged as overkill?
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I didn't notice British Hills app listed,a great addition.
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+ 1 for Grid Ref - Great as a confidence check & a quick way to make a note of a location for future reference or to send your location.
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British Hills
OS Locate
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Weather Apps (Met Office/Accu/YR are all decent)
Webpage bookmark to MWIS
ViewRanger
Podcast manager app
Strava
Everything else I don't bother with.
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Most weather services are useless for where I live in Aberdeenshire. I think it might be cause they can’t determine whether to apply the forecast for the Cairngorms or the forecast for the coast and Aberdeen, both of which are usually different to what we experience.
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OP here .. thanks for all the great information, especially Gunwharfman O0
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Dark Sky. I quote "Hourly and minute hyperlocal free weather and widget app. Live rain and storm radar." It might even be useful in Aberdeenshire.
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Having looked at my phone I find that others have recommended similar apps to the ones I use but no one mentioned Pathwatch. It's an app from The Ramblers to report problems (or good things) with rights of way. You can do it on the spot if you have a signal and include a photo. I've used it a few times and I find it's useful because it makes me feel good that at least I've done something there and then. To be honest I have no idea what The Rambers do with the reports and I often remember to make my own report directly to the County Council footpaths people when I get home.
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Dark Sky. I quote "Hourly and minute hyperlocal free weather and widget app. Live rain and storm radar." It might even be useful in Aberdeenshire.
I downloaded that to have a look, and a notice says it's now part of Apple and shut down on 1 July 2020.
The app opens on Android but it has a warning in red font that it has shut down, and zeros are shown in place of hours and temperatures.
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Sorry Fernman and others I hadn't realised that it had been on my phone and unused for so long. Deleted now! It was a really good app sorry it has gone
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Sorry Fernman and others I hadn't realised that it had been on my phone and unused for so long. Deleted now! It was a really good app sorry it has gone
It isn't gone, at least in Ireland, I use it on android, have for a few years. I don't use the hyper local app although that does seem to work, I just use my GPS and save a webpage, have home, work, walk 1 etc. On my phone home screen
https://darksky.net/forecast/51.7000,-8.5000/uk212/en
I like it for short rain weather, seems more accurate than anything else over a couple of hours
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A failing of every weather app I've tried previously was that the radar maps only show you what it's been like up until the current time only. What I wanted was something like the BBC TV forecast map behind the presenter that shows the coming conditions.
Yesterday I found an obscure app called Ventusky which does that.
It opens on a map of UK centered on your location, it can be zoomed in by pinching, and it shows wind movement plus a choice of temperature or precipitation (more choices are avaible if you pay). I feel the rain one is the more useful.
At the foot of the screen there are two sliding bars, one where you can select the day/date, the other where you can select the time in either 1 hour or 3 hour intervals, so for example on the current day you can advance it forward and see what rain if any is coming your way and when.
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A failing of every weather app I've tried previously was that the radar maps only show you what it's been like up until the current time only. What I wanted was something like the BBC TV forecast map behind the presenter that shows the coming conditions.
Yesterday I found an obscure app called Ventusky which does that.
It opens on a map of UK centered on your location, it can be zoomed in by pinching, and it shows wind movement plus a choice of temperature or precipitation (more choices are avaible if you pay). I feel the rain one is the more useful.
At the foot of the screen there are two sliding bars, one where you can select the day/date, the other where you can select the time in either 1 hour or 3 hour intervals, so for example on the current day you can advance it forward and see what rain if any is coming your way and when.
Or, if you want to go back to first principles, you could pull up this site on your browser:
https://www.weathercharts.org/ukmomslp.htm (https://www.weathercharts.org/ukmomslp.htm)
This appears to be the internet version of the stuff I used to pull over the radio (using Weatherfax software) when I was sailing.
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...or just use the BBC Weather App (no map with that, but you can set your location) or get the same BBC info via a browser.
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Or, if you want to go back to first principles, you could pull up this site on your browser:
https://www.weathercharts.org/ukmomslp.htm (https://www.weathercharts.org/ukmomslp.htm)
This appears to be the internet version of the stuff I used to pull over the radio (using Weatherfax software) when I was sailing.
Very nice (I attended a WEA meteorolgy course between 1985-86). But it's not the same as the wind arrows and the blue rain going over the town names on the Ventusky map.
or just use the BBC Weather App (no map with that, but you can set your location) or get the same BBC info via a browser.
The point of Ventusky is that it is a map that shows weather movement. The BBC Weather app may be one of the better forecasters but without a map it doesn't do what I want. And when I watch their live forecasts I find I concentrate too much on the pretty girl presenting it, after which I still don't know what the weather is going to do!
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Yesterday I found an obscure app called Ventusky which does that.
Quite a lot of poor reviews, which always sets alarm bells ringing for me
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Quite a lot of poor reviews, which always sets alarm bells ringing for me
Interesting! I've just looked at the reviews on G Play, 50% of negs about it not working/updating - no such problems for me, and 50% about the widget - I don't use widgets, they grab too much screen space.
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I've seen the word widget on my phone, no idea what it is and have never bothered to find out. What am I missing?
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I don't know if this is to do with this subject? I've bought a tiny gadget, one phone USB at one end of 3" of cable and one normal-sized USB socket at the other end with a USB plug inserted. I had to provide a small SD disk (I don't think I've used the correct description?) to plug into it. It now works like a zip drive that I can use between easily between my phone and PC.
It only cost me £5 from a local phone shop.
I've started to use it by downloading various documents to it, like my rucksack carry list, etc. Not sure yet if it has potential to be of benefit to me when Hiking? I haven't tried yet but I think I will be able to download maps and photos to it which will then display on my phone screen or display on my PC. If you already own one, any suggestions about how best to use it?
For example, is it possible to download an app to it, like LastPass, so I can keep this app off of my phone completely until I actually want to use it?
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FLOWX is a weather app. It provides a weather chart showing weather movement for the next five days. Very useful for seeing how rain clouds and wind are forecast to move across the country.