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And tips on sources for [subject]
Tnx
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I've looked on a few sites but cannot find one, good luck with your search.
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There was one a few years back called a titanium kettle that was on my mental "desire" list. It was tall and rather narrow, with a spout, and the price was eye watering. I'm unable to find it now in a quick search, so I'm guessing it's n.l.a. So change your search term and you might be lucky.
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This sort of thing?
https://basecampfood.com/products/evernew-titanium-teapot-500?_pos=5&_sid=ff3446d3f&_ss=r
Price to make the eyes water!
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500ml Evernew mughttps://www.outdoorline.sk/en/kemping/pots-pans/evernew-ti-mug-pot-500 (https://www.outdoorline.sk/en/kemping/pots-pans/evernew-ti-mug-pot-500)
28 Euro delivery as we are now outside the EU.
UK supplier - this one 900ml - https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVERNEW-696968-P-Titanium-Mug-Pot/dp/B01GTSSDSM (https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVERNEW-696968-P-Titanium-Mug-Pot/dp/B01GTSSDSM)
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It seems that you have to pay a lot of money for the ability to pour water, I'm out.
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Me too!
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I was looking at the Snowpeak Titanium Double Walled Mug - which you can get a lid for (at a princely £8) - but £56 (inc lid) for a backpacking mug is a bit steep. I've already dropped some money on a backpacking setup for ground coffee (which adds a benefit to my backpacking experience I personally think worth it), but a slightly different type of mug (I already have a mug) seems like it ain't worth it.
That said if I was looking for a proper pouring backpacking pot I'd pick up the Evernew Pasta Pot, which despite being £70 is the only one with a proper pourer, straining lid, and the right shape for taking some of the UL alcohol stove setups.
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You have to really justify the necessity for less weight in your rucsac, as kit manufactured from Titanium is pretty expensive.
I bought my Lifeventure titanium mug, from Blacks, and paid £16 for it, and my Esbit cutlery set was only £12 on ebay.
The esbit kit, is a lovely accessory, which comes in its own pouch, and it even has a titanium carabiner to keep them together.
There is one positive aspect about spending a huge sum of money on Titanium equipment, and that its going to outlast you..
Its not like blowing several hundred on a new waterproof, that within time, will need replacing, a Titanium cookery set, or cooking accessory, will outlast you, so if you can tolerate the initial price, it will be a good investment.
My titanium mug is very lightweight, as you probably can imagine, but its a novelty item, that i like using for my favourite cuppa in front of the telly, watching Winterwatch.
I much prefer using my trusty plastic mug, the one ive been using for many years, and because it weighs probably double that of the Titanium is never a problem for me.
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I can't remember what I paid for my 550ml titanium pot as the seller is no longer in business and it was an obscure brand originating from China, but I seem to remember the figure started with a 3. What I do know for certain is that with the lid it weighs 79g against the 156g of my old aluminium billycan.
As for a mug, I replaced my favourite plastic one, which was 60g, with a 500ml handled plastic beaker from China that weighs 37g and is marked with gradations that are ideal for measuring the right amount of water for powdered drink mixes or to boil for freeze dried dinners.
That's 100g less weight carried, or 3.7 oz in old money if my maths is correct. Every little bit helps, as the well-known supermarket slogan used to say.
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Hi CPCNW,
coming from a small island I do most of my shopping on line.
More than half of my walking gear I have bought from Ultralight gear.
I have found them good to deal with and generally competitive in price. They do free postage on anything over £50.
I haven't bought any titanium Gear though.
they have this which might suit. It is 0.85L so could double for cooking in.
MSR Titanium Titan Kettle | UK | Ultralight Outdoor Gear (https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/kitchen-stuff-c8/pots-and-pans-c9/msr-titanium-titan-kettle-p101)
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Its not like blowing several hundred on a new waterproof, that within time, will need replacing, a Titanium cookery set, or cooking accessory, will outlast you, so if you can tolerate the initial price, it will be a good investment.
I have to disagree with you on that - a good waterproof can literally be a life saver in extreme conditions, and can often make the difference between a walk in foul weather being tolerable, and having to give up and beat a retreat. I have some titanium pots, and when all is said and done, they are a luxury item - aluminium would do the job just fine, and in some respects is better (less hot spots). And I use a disposable plastic spoon, handle cut down so that it fits inside the pan. Does the job.
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aluminium would do the job just fine, and in some respects is better (less hot spots).
Could you please provide links to small aluminium pots.. No doubt a £50 titanium pot is good, but I (and my wife too, I guess) couldn't justify the cost
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MSR Alpine Stowaway (https://www.blacks.co.uk/16005412/msr-alpine-stowaway-pot-16005412/?istCompanyId=d92b362f-ac8a-4a8a-87ca-c56eafad7955&istFeedId=2f99410f-1124-43d5-8232-86c184f09479&istItemId=iqxiqqtir&istBid=tzlt&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmfmABhCHARIsACwPRAAUpqfl41sljyxXIOg_OLf8C1OvLVEmKbgbTAfo8X2SxfNdW2SzVDIaAsnfEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) pot is really good for 2-person use. Aluminium is better for cooking food than titanium anyway (doesn't have distinct hot spots which burns, as richard says) - the folding handle which secures it all together makes it simple. Believe they come in varying sizes, 775ml/1.1l and upwards.
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Always thought the MSR stowaway pot was Stainless steel
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I just checked and seems you're right, pretty tough and worth picking up if you want something cheap and cheerful though. Only aluminum set I can recommend (other than the Trangia pans, which I'm quite partial to) would be the Primus heat-exchanger pots, but they aren't cheap. I'm sure any outdoor gear store stocks alu cooking kit though and many of them should be running sales at the moment.
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Could you please provide links to small aluminium pots.. No doubt a £50 titanium pot is good, but I (and my wife too, I guess) couldn't justify the cost
I haven't been able to find an aluminium mug online, but loads of pots available.
In fact, most camping cookware is made of aluminium. Here's a few:
https://rockrun.com/products/soto-river-pot-1-litre?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Paid&utm_campaign=CPC&variant=12620893290560&sfdr_ptcid=8795_100_375603168&sfdr_hash=f49191e6f80c1884fe75b7011ce3beac&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvP6ABhCjARIsAH37rbQbsC1eBZiICOIesHvY7AaGUKf1MYkIJGwIkFhnBJ1z4U_wa-h288oaAiWxEALw_wcB (https://rockrun.com/products/soto-river-pot-1-litre?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Paid&utm_campaign=CPC&variant=12620893290560&sfdr_ptcid=8795_100_375603168&sfdr_hash=f49191e6f80c1884fe75b7011ce3beac&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvP6ABhCjARIsAH37rbQbsC1eBZiICOIesHvY7AaGUKf1MYkIJGwIkFhnBJ1z4U_wa-h288oaAiWxEALw_wcB)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vango-Hard-Anodised-Kit-Grey-Person/dp/B00HZ66XDA/ref=sr_1_34?dchild=1&keywords=aluminium+pan+camping&qid=1612686244&sr=8-34 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vango-Hard-Anodised-Kit-Grey-Person/dp/B00HZ66XDA/ref=sr_1_34?dchild=1&keywords=aluminium+pan+camping&qid=1612686244&sr=8-34)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Andes-Portable-Aluminium-Camping-Cookware/dp/B07C53W5FY/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=aluminium+pan+camping&qid=1612686338&sr=8-9 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Andes-Portable-Aluminium-Camping-Cookware/dp/B07C53W5FY/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=aluminium+pan+camping&qid=1612686338&sr=8-9)
https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/kitchen-stuff-c8/pots-and-pans-c9/aluminium-trek-1400-p14616/s67811?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=snow-peak-aluminium-trek-1400-aw20601&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&cid=GBP&glCurrency=GBP&glCountry=GB&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvP6ABhCjARIsAH37rbTDajohZAH2rUAjV82QPK0z7f-fPTba3mZQzUXY3gxFqSlHMwhX508aAiH3EALw_wcB (https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/kitchen-stuff-c8/pots-and-pans-c9/aluminium-trek-1400-p14616/s67811?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=snow-peak-aluminium-trek-1400-aw20601&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&cid=GBP&glCurrency=GBP&glCountry=GB&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvP6ABhCjARIsAH37rbTDajohZAH2rUAjV82QPK0z7f-fPTba3mZQzUXY3gxFqSlHMwhX508aAiH3EALw_wcB)
https://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/shop/survival-accessories/survival-accessories/solo-cookset-highlander-compact-546318.html?pid=546318&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvP6ABhCjARIsAH37rbSFGeKx--WyzyS-hOo-rdx98b-sriXZ9weirVaQ7JoT90_C1Ol-e4EaAiKrEALw_wcB
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A pouring lip could be quite easily produced by a gentle tap with a hammer and chisel O0
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A pouring lip could be quite easily produced by a gentle tap with a hammer and chisel O0
Hmm - wouldn't try that on an expensive titanium pot!
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MSR Alpine Stowaway (https://www.blacks.co.uk/16005412/msr-alpine-stowaway-pot-16005412/?istCompanyId=d92b362f-ac8a-4a8a-87ca-c56eafad7955&istFeedId=2f99410f-1124-43d5-8232-86c184f09479&istItemId=iqxiqqtir&istBid=tzlt&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmfmABhCHARIsACwPRAAUpqfl41sljyxXIOg_OLf8C1OvLVEmKbgbTAfo8X2SxfNdW2SzVDIaAsnfEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) pot is really good for 2-person use. Aluminium is better for cooking food than titanium anyway (doesn't have distinct hot spots which burns, as richard says) - the folding handle which secures it all together makes it simple. Believe they come in varying sizes, 775ml/1.1l and upwards.
I actually put up a posting a few days about Zebra SS pots, but the consensus amongst folk here (far far more experienced than me) was that they were too heavy
Another Zebra product looks a bit like the NSR you linked to
Here's the link to the Zebra lunchbox .. https://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/zebra-14cm-lunchbox---a-brilliant-stainless-steel-cooking-pot-19637-p.asp
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Thanks wb. I like the billy cans with a pale on that site, makes me think of roaring fires and gentle cooking with a group of friends once we're back to normal.
Much of my camping gear is UL and 1-person focused but there's always room for slightly heavier kit when you're bringing things for 2+ I think. Particularly if you want to do some actual cooking versus just warming water.
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Thanks for all the replies. Eventually I found the Evernew and the price!!!
https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/kitchen-stuff-c8/pots-and-pans-c9/eca266r-titanium-mug-pot-500-0-5l-p962 (https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/kitchen-stuff-c8/pots-and-pans-c9/eca266r-titanium-mug-pot-500-0-5l-p962)
and then checked back here to see loads of ideas had come in - so thanks for all that. I did think about creating a wooden former to create a slight deformation at the top also?
In the back of my mind I was thinking of an item that could be used to a) boil water b) use as mug c) heat / eat food from d) store spirit stove etc
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If you have not bought one yet have you considered looking on the AliExpress site, loads of choice. Delivery from China on nearly everything I've ordered has averaged out at 10 days.
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cpcnw - I also choose my mug / pot to do all those jobs (though some better than others, it's all a compromise)
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In the back of my mind I was thinking of an item that could be used to a) boil water b) use as mug c) heat / eat food from d) store spirit stove etc
I found this which may be of interest. No need to take the coffee filter part if you want to save weight.
Bestargot Camping Titanium Cup, Outdoor Portable Mug: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07ZQD6N2H/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07ZQD6N2H&pd_rd_w=HGzkm&pf_rd_p=871455a8-2081-4ae3-be47-0e6ec29adb28&pd_rd_wg=qWawN&pf_rd_r=GHTN073BHNGSV1B65C66&pd_rd_r=28f0a027-d061-4ffa-b4d1-cd93b3f8b465&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzQTZLTjJPRlo3Vzk0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc2OTQ1MjVFNzRNUUw2SU4xRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDA0Mjk1WVU3Mk5CS081T05CJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==)
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If you already have the mug and want a foldable coffee filter to fit most mugs have a look at Speedster Stoves at the one they offer at £5.50 + post.
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No pouring spout, but I just bought one of THESE (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300ml-750ml-Titanium-Portable-Camping-Water-Cup-Mug-With-Foldable-Handle-I7C9/373117760479?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=641908249773&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649).
£16.40 for a 650ml Lixada titanium mug with lid and net bag, Chinese manufacture but UK seller.
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If I want any titanium stuff I usually look at the Lixada range first, good quality & well priced.
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Thank you for the links
I haven't been able to find an aluminium mug online, but loads of pots available. In fact, most camping cookware is made of aluminium. Here's a few:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vango-Hard-Anodised-Kit-Grey-Person/dp/B00HZ66XDA/ref=sr_1_34?dchild=1&keywords=aluminium+pan+camping&qid=1612686244&sr=8-34 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vango-Hard-Anodised-Kit-Grey-Person/dp/B00HZ66XDA/ref=sr_1_34?dchild=1&keywords=aluminium+pan+camping&qid=1612686244&sr=8-34)
I have seen these sets (not Vango branded, but very similar) for £10 on ebay and about £7 on AliExpress, both prices including delivery.
I just wonder if for example these are better, for say cooking a pasta meal or the titanium. The cleaning afterwards also important.
Also, the top / small pot looks a bit clumsy, a flat-type lid would do me
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In my experience Alu is certainly easier to clean after cooking food, I try to use the titanium pot to boil water only. Generally I discard the lids and have a piece of thickish foil to fit on top (as can also be used for a windshield).
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Recently took delivery of a Lixada 550m titanium pot,wider than a mug, without lid for £9:90 from Ali. I've made a lid from foil and saved weight & money.
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My advice would be avoid titanium for anything other than boiling water - the very low thermal conductivity and extreme thinness of the pans means that you get hot spots where the sauce becomes burnt on, and these leave a mark even after intense scouring. Best choice would be non stick aluminium - over 10 times the thermal conductivity and thicker pan bottom means that the heat is spread more evenly, and hot spots are avoided. And cheaper!
..but I'm only wanting to boil water on my short forays into the hills.
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Recently took delivery of a Lixada 550m titanium pot,wider than a mug, without lid for £9:90 from Ali. I've made a lid from foil and saved weight & money.
Good price. I went for the 650ml as it is a bit deeper, will be able to house a home made windshield made out of aluminium beer cans (work in progress). And a lid will help keep everything together (I hope) - home made meths stove, folding spork, small container of meths, lighter etc.
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RichardH 1905,
I'd not thought of using beer cans to make a windshield, let us know how you get on. I suppose you'll be using Bud Light!
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RichardH 1905,
I suppose you'll be using Bud Light!
;D ;D ;D
Aluminium cans, certainly. The aluminium is very thin and springy, ideal for a windshield. Will post some photos when I am done, but am waiting for the arrival of the Lixada mug that I have ordered, as I want to size the windshield correctly.
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Surely these are what you should be using?
(https://anthonymartin.be/wp-content/uploads/Gordon-Finest-Titanium-Can-50cl-web.jpg)
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Not seen that before, must find & try
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14%! , that would soon get you in the party mood O0
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RichardH 1905,
I'm waiting for a Lixada titanium windshield/ pot stand from Ali, ordered 9 days ago so I'm expecting it anytime now.
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Windyrigg,
Trouble is I'd have to party alone under present situation, never mind, more for me, hic hic
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Lixada 650ml Ti pot with lid arrived today, very pleased with it, quality seems good, handles are ergonomic, useful graduations on the inside, and the lid is a good snug fit. O0
Just had my first cup of tea from it (after a good wash, of course), heated on my home made meths stove (weight 14g), beer can windshield (10g + 2 tent pegs poked through holes in it to act as a pot stand). 15ml of meths heated 300ml of water to a good boil in 10 minutes.
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My Lixada pot stand/windshield arrived today and I'm very happy with it, though not tested yet. It fits perfectly around my Triad stove and my Alpkit 650 mug slides in to give a great fit. Probably give it a test tomorrow.