barewirewalker, Go on do your best, instead of questioning the question, just give an answer. Or not.Actually I would find your concise reply more valuable, one way or another, than some (mainly including my own)
Out of interest to the dog owning, unleaded type (hopefully not diesel in this day and age) my son had a couple of poachers (he thinks) on his land two nights ago. They won't be back ever again, his two shire horses just love playing with dogs and his cameras show they not only gave the dog a right going over, the big one looking for food treats, as they do, went trotting across to one of the blokes whereupon it was clear on the night vision that he wet himself and got zapped on the electric fence and ripped his jacket on the barbed wire in his panic to get away. I was quite surprised as they are the most gentle creatures normally, they just as a pair seemed to take a dislike to that lurcher dog. My sons rescue dogs (lurcher and bull mastiff) play with them all the time, so they are used to dogs. He is thinking of posting the whole thing on YT. He's thinking of putting the horses in with his sheep at lambing time as he has had a couple of dog incidents over the years.