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Title: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 17:50:15, 19/03/19
Looking for waterproof overtrousers for me n missus which are breathable with ankle adjustment and not expensive.
Ordered some Berghaus deluge which felt great but no ankle adjustment! I hate that. So many don't have it, but it's really important.
Ive got some beaten up British army ones which are gonna be relegated to bushcraft and other stuff.
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Post by: gunwharfman on 17:55:06, 19/03/19
I'm intrigued, why would you want ankle adjustment on a pair of waterproof trousers?
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Post by: sussamb on 18:01:43, 19/03/19
Me too  :-\
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Post by: Ralph on 18:08:31, 19/03/19
Used Berghaus Pac Lite over trousers for years and they do that all that i need from them. IMO can not be beaten.
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 18:38:20, 19/03/19
I'm intrigued, why would you want ankle adjustment on a pair of waterproof trousers?


Short legs. They just hang down and scrape on the floor and get all torn up. I need to tighten them on my boots
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Post by: ninthace on 19:00:29, 19/03/19

Short legs. They just hang down and scrape on the floor and get all torn up. I need to tighten them on my boots
I wonder if you can still get bicycle clips?  That would solve the problem  :)
Seems you can https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cycle-trouser-clips-Black-coating/dp/B01ATM5NLE/ref=pd_sim_229_5/261-9568725-7873624?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01ATM5NLE&pd_rd_r=f72a5bcb-4a78-11e9-9f0b-6d913e1b2c24&pd_rd_w=1CLnR&pd_rd_wg=Zob3C&pf_rd_p=1b8636ae-4f21-4403-a813-e8849dd46de4&pf_rd_r=9XN6PRP6RVJ4R7MZRG3B&psc=1&refRID=9XN6PRP6RVJ4R7MZRG3B
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: gunwharfman on 19:06:21, 19/03/19
I gave up using waterproof trousers (too much messing about and hot where I dont want to be hot) and moved onto a rain skirt and gaiters. Much prefered, comfortable and cool, on and off in 5 seconds. I've now moved on to a long waterproof coat, again using gaiters. Easy to put on and off as well.

I can understand your problem, my legs are not long and they never fitted well, the trousers I used also had long zips so I couldnt shorten them.
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Post by: mow1701 on 19:28:43, 19/03/19
Intriguing thread! I have Berghaus goretex paclite trouser and they come in different leg lengths- Iím a short leg by the way(steady now  :) )  I would suggest finding a shop that offer different leg lengths. I think I got mine from Outdoor GB.
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 22:39:02, 19/03/19
Intriguing thread! I have Berghaus goretex paclite trouser and they come in different leg lengths- Iím a short leg by the way(steady now  :) )  I would suggest finding a shop that offer different leg lengths. I think I got mine from Outdoor GB.


The deluge I tried were "short" leg, supposed to be 29", but were still really long, more like 32" at least. That's as short as they come. A simple velcro tab is all thatst needed and would be so easy for them to include.


I like the overtrousers cos they also break the wind a bit, enable me to kneel down, overall protection and provide warmth+breathability without the betty swollocks which come with base layers/long johns
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 22:40:41, 19/03/19
Id get the army ones again, they are good and cheap, but I wanna move away from camo.
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Post by: sussamb on 07:04:31, 20/03/19

Short legs. They just hang down and scrape on the floor and get all torn up. I need to tighten them on my boots


You need these https://www.amazon.co.uk/MILITARY-TROUSER-TWISTS-TWISTERS-ELASTIC/dp/B00O6ILE5M
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 09:04:18, 20/03/19

You need these https://www.amazon.co.uk/MILITARY-TROUSER-TWISTS-TWISTERS-ELASTIC/dp/B00O6ILE5M (https://www.amazon.co.uk/MILITARY-TROUSER-TWISTS-TWISTERS-ELASTIC/dp/B00O6ILE5M)


No I don't. Theyre just another thing to lose and faff around with. What I need is some overtrousers with ankle adjustment. Its really not that much to ask for.
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Post by: jimbob on 10:05:06, 20/03/19
Take a pair into the local sewing alterations shop and explain what you want. Possibility they can do exactly what you want.
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Post by: gunwharfman on 11:35:24, 20/03/19
Ronin83 is correct. When I bought Deluge I bought the short leg but they were longer than advertised.
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Post by: sussamb on 11:51:19, 20/03/19

No I don't. Theyre just another thing to lose and faff around with. What I need is some overtrousers with ankle adjustment. Its really not that much to ask for.


Never lost any in 25 years in the Army so you'd be okay, but it is an instant and cheap solution.
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 12:32:23, 20/03/19
Take a pair into the local sewing alterations shop and explain what you want. Possibility they can do exactly what you want.


I could do, but that's more faffing. When I buy a product it should be right straight away.
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: sussamb on 13:06:42, 20/03/19
For most of us they are, I suspect what you want isn't a popular request or someone would have done it  ;)
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Post by: janner on 14:35:53, 20/03/19
Craghoppers do waterproof over trousers with velcro fasteners at the bottom of the legs.
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Post by: sussamb on 14:46:25, 20/03/19
So they do https://www.craghoppers.com/ascent-overtrousers-black/
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 18:16:57, 20/03/19
For most of us they are, I suspect what you want isn't a popular request or someone would have done it  ;)


Not really. I can't understand why u wouldn't want adjustment at the bottom. Even the British army ones have that. Lots do, but they are mostly expensive.


I will check out the craghoppers ones
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: sussamb on 18:50:11, 20/03/19
I can't understand why u wouldn't want adjustment at the bottom.


Because it's not necessary as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: janner on 09:25:54, 21/03/19
Perhaps not if you are walking on stony or clean tracks. But if you are walking through muddy fields or tracks it does stop a lot of the mud creeping up the part of your over trousers between your legs. I expect its the same reason some walkers tuck their trousers into their socks.
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Post by: sussamb on 09:32:54, 21/03/19
Ah well that explains it, I've never tucked my trousers into my socks  ;D
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Post by: kinkyboots on 10:34:20, 21/03/19
I would of thought the most sensible option and simplest and cheapest fix would be to add a matching sized press stud base an inch or two further along the hem to allow the existing press stud top to fasten slightly further along taking up the excess? There's plenty of videos on YouTube showing you how to do it or alternatively get your local cobbler or sewing repairs & alterations type shop to do it for you (it's a 2 minute job).

As always trying before you buy prevents these type of problems and you did have the option to return them before wearing them outside.
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Post by: jimbob on 11:36:07, 21/03/19

I could do, but that's more faffing. When I buy a product it should be right straight away.

Don't understand this point. They should only be "right" if they are actually so when you first try them on. They have changing rooms in decent shops for that purpose and decent web companies offer free returns. 

A cheap set of gaiters over the top of them will currently correct your purchasing error O0
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 12:30:17, 21/03/19
Don't understand this point. They should only be "right" if they are actually so when you first try them on. They have changing rooms in decent shops for that purpose and decent web companies offer free returns. 

A cheap set of gaiters over the top of them will currently correct your purchasing error O0


Thanks for your pearls of wisdom


I did actually ask recommendations for waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment, NOT accessories to overcome a design flaw. Wish I hadn't asked, blimey!
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Post by: ninthace on 12:53:57, 21/03/19
Ah well that explains it, I've never tucked my trousers into my socks  ;D
Then you arenít a proper rambler. Ideally said socks should be red.
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Post by: sussamb on 14:15:29, 21/03/19
Never worn red socks either  ;D
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Post by: jimbob on 15:38:06, 21/03/19
Dirk wears white socks
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: Ronin83 on 22:45:27, 21/03/19
I would of thought the most sensible option and simplest and cheapest fix would be to add a matching sized press stud base an inch or two further along the hem to allow the existing press stud top to fasten slightly further along taking up the excess? There's plenty of videos on YouTube showing you how to do it or alternatively get your local cobbler or sewing repairs & alterations type shop to do it for you (it's a 2 minute job).

As always trying before you buy prevents these type of problems and you did have the option to return them before wearing them outside.


Why are people assuming I didn't try them? Amazon prime is a wonderful thing. I really thought i remembered deluge having this adjustment on them. I often saw them in blacks/millets, but they only do sizes in 'small' or ''medium' etc, not waist and length, so I went with Amazon. It was perfectly fine and theyre now returned.
I really just wanted to know if anyone knew of some others with the adjustment.
Geez
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Post by: mananddog on 08:08:15, 22/03/19
Ah well that explains it, I've never tucked my trousers into my socks  ;D



You would if you kept ferrets


I bet you don't tuck your shirt into your underpants either.
Title: Re: Waterproof overtrousers with ankle adjustment
Post by: sussamb on 08:15:14, 22/03/19
Funnily enough I don't  :)
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Post by: Islandplodder on 08:22:04, 22/03/19

It's no good, Ronin83, people whose legs conform to the average trouser don't understand the problem.
I regularly grit my teeth in outdoor shops when contemplating the inches of trouser leg sweeping the floor.  And it's no good saying cut the bottoms off the legs, as walking trousers usually have some kind of shaping at the knees, and so even if you altered the legs to the right length the knees are in the wrong place.
There do seem to be trends in this, a few years ago, most walking trousers could be cinched in at the ankle, and I remember being told that it was precisely to accommodate different leg lengths, but it seems less common now.
I tend to wear Paramo trousers, they don't need overtrousers.  I have both cascada and velez, and both have ankle adjustment.  They aren't cheap though.  I justify them to myself on the grounds that they are walking trousers and overtrousers in one, and you get 50 quid back on the empties.
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Post by: gunwharfman on 19:08:41, 22/03/19
Have you considered an alternative? A Rain skirt for example, with gaiters on, the skirt works well, when needed, on and off in 5-10 seconds. You don't even have to stop walking.
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Post by: Jim Parkin on 18:24:05, 27/03/19
I have a pair of Marmot PreCip full length zip "pants", which have adjustable ankles. 
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Post by: richardh1905 on 20:33:02, 28/03/19
Have you considered an alternative? A Rain skirt for example, with gaiters on, the skirt works well, when needed, on and off in 5-10 seconds. You don't even have to stop walking.



..but you end up with wet feet!   :)