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Lakeland Lorry

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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #210 on: 16:00:27, 19/01/18 »
Found a Consultation report on the planning portal called:  Appendix 2 MOD response Appendix_2_20170626_MOD_Response.doc.

This is what it says:

Thank you for consulting Defence Infrastructure Organisation (DIO) on the above proposed development. This application relates to a site outside of Ministry of Defence (MOD) statutory safeguarding areas. We can therefore confirm that the MOD has no safeguarding objections to this proposal.
 
In the interests of air safety, the MOD requests that the structure is fitted with aviation warning lighting.  Any tall structure should be fitted with a minimum intensity 25 candela omni directional flashing red light or equivalent infra-red light fitted at the highest practicable point of the structure.
 
Whilst we have no safeguarding objections to this application, the height of the development will necessitate that aeronautical charts and mapping records are amended. Defence Infrastructure Organisation (DIO) Safeguarding therefore requests that, as a condition of any planning permission granted, the developer must notify UK DVOF & Powerlines at the Defence Geographic Centre with the following information prior to development commencing:
 
a.     Precise location of development.
b.    Date of commencement of construction.
c.     Date of completion of construction.
d.    The height above ground level of the tallest structure.
e.     The maximum extension height of any construction equipment.
f.     Details of aviation warning lighting fitted to the structure(s)

This information can be sent by e-mail to UK DVOF & Powerlines at [email protected], or posted to:
 
D-UKDVOF & Power Lines
Air Information Centre
Defence Geographic Centre
DGIA
Elmwood Avenue
Feltham
Middlesex
TW13 7AH
 
I trust this adequately explains our position on this matter, however should you have any questions regarding this matter please do not hesitate to contact me.
 
Many Thanks
Di Sylvester
Assistant Safeguarding Officer
Environment & Planning Support – Safeguarding
DIO Safety Environment & Engineering
Defence Infrastructure Organisation
Kingston Road, Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands, B75 7RL
 
 
From: ADAM THOMAS [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 June 2017 11:35
To: DIO SEE-EPS SG3a2 (Sylvester, Diane Mrs)
Subject: Thirlmere Zip Lines
 
Dear Diane,
 
Thank you for responding to our inquiries and for the call earlier today. Please find attached the amended route for the ziplines.
 
This takes the highest point of the wire over the lake from 150m down to 135.12m falling to 75.93m at the east side of the lake.
 
The tallest built structure in the scheme will be at 8m above the ground, similar to the Titan launch at Zipworld in Wales pictured below.
 
I look forward to your response and please don't hesitate to contact me if you require any further information.
 
Regards
 
Adam Thomas
Thirlmere Activity Hub


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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #211 on: 16:04:56, 19/01/18 »
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Meanwhile, back in the real world, there is possibly a difference between one note to the planners from April on the back of an old OS map cover and 1000s of people taking the time to write and object.
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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #212 on: 19:40:37, 19/01/18 »
Meanwhile, back in the real world, there is possibly a difference between one note to the planners from April on the back of an old OS map cover and 1000s of people taking the time to write and object.

I'm a bit classier than using the back of an old OS map   ;)

I found a tatty old book written by someone called Alfred Wainwright, who is he anyway?  :-\

Here is a pic of the author on top of Raven Crag. Have a look at Raven Crag 4 in the Central Lakes book.



I photocopied the page and wrote my reply on the reverse   ;)  Wainwright shows the view, why would anyone need to mention it?  ;)

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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #213 on: 19:51:47, 19/01/18 »
 :) O0
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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #214 on: 19:03:21, 20/01/18 »
Just signed up for the rally on 27th

We are going too, say hello if you see us  :)
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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #215 on: 14:48:22, 21/01/18 »
Hi April -  I will do.


The last protest rally I went to was in 1985, and mainly consisted of shouting "Organise, occupy, kick the Tories out" and being watched very closely by the riot police.  I assume next weekend will be more tranquil.

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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #216 on: 17:06:06, 21/01/18 »
I assume next weekend will be more tranquil.

Unless Mike Turner turns up  ;)
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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #217 on: 01:49:44, 23/01/18 »
Heard on the grapevine today. The RAF have officially today put in an objection to this project. Now that may carry some severe weight. Hopefully.

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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #218 on: 08:29:56, 23/01/18 »
Heard on the grapevine today. The RAF have officially today put in an objection to this project. Now that may carry some severe weight. Hopefully.

It is great news Addingham, the MOD letter was circulated last Thursday 18/1/18 - see the posts on this thread from post 195 - 210. I can't see how the LDNPA could possibly approve this application even without the MOD objection but now it seems that it can't be approved.
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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #219 on: 08:40:38, 23/01/18 »
Mike Turner hopefully will have time on his hands this year when the Zip Plan is refused. I think he will do very well in a certain competition held in Wasdale every year.

The world's biggest liar competition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Biggest_Liar

He just needs to quote some of  things he put in his planning app and what he has said on camera during the last few months  :)
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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #220 on: 10:36:30, 23/01/18 »

Mike Turnip hopefully will have time on his hands this year when the Zip Plan is refused. I think he will do very well in a certain competition held in Wasdale every year.




For God's sake - don't allow him anywhere near Wasdale!

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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #221 on: 12:40:24, 23/01/18 »
Have just spotted this posted on the Friends of the Lake District FB page:

Thirlmere Activity Hub zip wire application to go to committee on March 7th.  The Lake District National Park have had 3,476 letters and emails of objection, and 163 letters and emails in favour, and a petition of 13,535 objecting, and views from 35 organisations. See the details here:
 http://www.lakedistrict.gov.uk/…/Med…/68365-269846.01.18.pdf

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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #222 on: 13:19:33, 23/01/18 »
Thanks LL, those are interesting figures, only 163 in favour!

For God's sake - don't allow him anywhere near Wasdale!

If it was up to me, he would be on the banned list  ::)

Like "Turnip", a much more suitable name.
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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #223 on: 13:56:47, 23/01/18 »
Below is a quote from Roger Smiths article in The Great Outdoors Feb 18 edition, it says it all really.
The whole article can be read here
http://www.tgomagazine.co.uk/news/roger-smiths-column-fog-over-thirlmere/

"Let me remind you of the Sandford Principle, on which the establishment of all our National Parks was based 60 years ago. It says: ‘If it appears that there is a conflict between conservation and development, the National Park Authority shall attach greater weight to the purpose of conserving and enhancing the natural beauty, wildlife and cultural heritage of the area.’

If the Lake District is to retain its status as a true National Park and be worthy of its accolade as a World Heritage Site, commercialisation such as this cannot be permitted

I would hope that Principle is totally accepted by the LDNPA, in which case there is no need for further discussion. The zipwire scheme is clearly inappropriate and should not go ahead. If it is passed by the LDNPA then I believe those members of the LDNPA board who vote for it should be summarily dismissed and replaced by people who genuinely understand and support Sandford"
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Re: Another zip wire plan, this time across Thirlmere
« Reply #224 on: 15:16:22, 23/01/18 »
Mike Turner hopefully will have time on his hands this year when the Zip Plan is refused. I think he will do very well in a certain competition held in Wasdale every year.

The world's biggest liar competition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Biggest_Liar

He just needs to quote some of  things he put in his planning app and what he has said on camera during the last few months  :)
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