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April

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Re: Winter camping - pack size?
« Reply #15 on: 20:01:08, 08/01/20 »
I'd rather take much less gear in a smaller pack (and hopefully I'll get it down a bit yet)

We have reduced the overall pack weight over a few years buying newer and mostly more expensive gear so you may need to replace some of the items you have to reduce the bulk.

I see your list has items that you sleep in, long johns and a top. Are these extra to those that you wear during the day? In winter I wear long johns all day underneath my trousers and I sleep in all my clothes, I don't bother taking anything off but I do add an extra layer on my top when I get into the tent. If you are taking clothes off when you sleep, perhaps this is one way of reducing your gear maybe?
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Re: Winter camping - pack size?
« Reply #16 on: 21:13:09, 08/01/20 »
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I feel the cold - so I find lots of insulation to be necessary.

I too would agree that separate sleeping clothes are totally unnecessary (unless there's a chance your walking under-layers would get really wet, which they shouldn't). We feel the cold much more nowadays and we just add an extra winter-weight down jacket to our walking layers for the camp.

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Re: Winter camping - pack size?
« Reply #17 on: 17:54:14, 09/01/20 »
It's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it... I've used the ULA Catalyst 75L pack for 10 years and I don't mind the extra weight because it's so comfortable, which is more important to me. I also use the 60L Atompacks Prospector which is lighter weight and comfortable, but I sometimes miss the extra space on long hikes.
I take sleep clothes which are my spare and emergency layers too.
Comfort over weight saving for me. Everybody is different. 

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Re: Winter camping - pack size?
« Reply #18 on: 18:09:22, 09/01/20 »
Yeah, I'm never sure about the sleeping clothes....I always bring them just in case - in summer as well.  An then I use them - but mostly because I have them (although I think I would still bring long johns in summer because, since I've started the whole mesh trail shoes thing, the wetness can creep up my lower legs after several days of rain. They were pretty essential when I walked from Glen Nevis to Aviemore last September when I waded several streams up to my mid thighs and the 6 days of wet weather gave no chance for my trousers to dry).


But back to winter...I reckon than new waterproofs (perhaps slightly fancier ones), combined with boots and gaiters rather than trail shoes, might allow me to leave behind the sleeping clothes. I'm not sure how practical stripping down to change into/out of fresh clothes would be on Ben Macdui in February anyway! Leaving the sleeping clothes behind would save 500-600g and a fir amount of bulk as well.

I ordered a Thermarest Neoair Xtherm yesterday :)  Rather pricey, but will be much warmer (twice the R-value) and less bulky than my Multimat self-inlfatable.



Again, thanks for the advice folks [/size] 8)

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Re: Winter camping - pack size?
« Reply #19 on: 18:27:41, 09/01/20 »
The Thermarest Xtherm is a great mat, really warm and comfortable.
I use merino base layers to sleep in to keep warm so I can carry a slightly lighter sleeping bag but mainly to keep the bag clean and protect it from sweat. (saving the weight of a sleeping bag liner). My winter 200gsm EDZ base layers add up to about 300g but you could splash out on the 200gsm merino Icebreaker full body suit to save another 50g or so. crazy price tho.
But I'm safety and comfort over saving weight.