Author Topic: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query  (Read 2127 times)

lightweightmick

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Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« on: 10:34:41, 03/03/20 »
Could save me an expensive recce weekend...
Looks like there's a quad track west from Hugh Seat via near the cairn E of Rowan Tree cove.
Planning descent to Howe Side/Elmgill to pick up the Pennine Bridleway heading for Ravenstonedale.
Anyone familiar with this line?

Looks good going on OS and Google, but could be boggy round Red Gill crossing...
Direct line or detour?

Any input much appreciated  O0
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #1 on: 11:55:38, 03/03/20 »
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Anyone familiar with this line?

Not that particular descent line, on our last backpack along the High Seat ridge we descended west from Little Fell farther south to join the Pennine Bridleway, alongside Jingling Sike. That was back in 2008, I remember the fellside being generally rather rough and tussocky on that line, boggy in places too (it certainly will be right now!).

I also noted at that time there was evidence of activity involving new shooting butts and track-scarring of the fellside around Little Fell: where did you see evidence of that quad track from Hugh Seat?. I can't see it on aerial photos, if it exists it might be a new shooters' track.


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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #2 on: 12:30:06, 03/03/20 »
Not that particular descent line, on our last backpack along the High Seat ridge we descended west from Little Fell farther south to join the Pennine Bridleway, alongside Jingling Sike. That was back in 2008, I remember the fellside being generally rather rough and tussocky on that line, boggy in places too (it certainly will be right now!).

I also noted at that time there was evidence of activity involving new shooting butts and track-scarring of the fellside around Little Fell: where did you see evidence of that quad track from Hugh Seat?. I can't see it on aerial photos, if it exists it might be a new shooters' track.
Your Jingling Syke line could suit me - come out at Hell Gill Bridge?
Just checking my original line - could actually be from Lady's Pillar - just confirming...
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #3 on: 13:24:00, 03/03/20 »
(it certainly will be right now!).

Just in planning stage (should be dryer for my attempt - fingers crossed anyway...) - my usual line is from Keld up Birkdale to pick up the shooter's track and continue over Lodge Hags to come S end of High Brae - drop down the Hush and descend to meet the bridle to Castlethwaite. It's a good line and better than my first choice this way which was up beside White Spots Gutter and over Uldale Gill Head (the N flowing water courses become more established here)
Care needs to be taken over Lodge hags though and I got it wrong on one crossing in the mist to end up knee deep in bogs which put me 2  hours down - hence the decision not to go overr on the Bike Hike route!

Variety being the spice of life though...  new line plan: stay on rd from Satron to Muker making for Gt Shunner Fell track and head NW from summit following fence line to Knoutberry Currack - it's just a matter of finding a way down from the ridge. The Pennine Bway will take me to my destination at Bowber Head & Cumbria Coaches - hopefully they will have a shower..? I have stayed there with the van when reccying in the past. It may yet prove to be too much of a stretch from Lovesome Hill though... the armchair planning doesn't always add up in practice!
Thanks for the info  O0
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #4 on: 13:41:12, 03/03/20 »


did you see evidence of that quad track from Hugh Seat?.
No, the quad track looks to go all over the place up there suggesting it's reasonable underfoot..?
The Red Gill crossing appears to be at 806992 then a clear(?) path looks like it descends to N of Hell Gill to become the quad track I was referring to - passes by a sheep fold and a cairn - should be clear way down W then between Cairn and Raven's Nest - looks simples...
A direct line W from the fence via Currick to the Cairn would be good, but a Hell Gill crossing on that line.

I found a route on this forum from Dave(?) but he descends further to the N nr Archy Styrigg as I recall... which would put me on the wrong side (N) for picking up the PB without an awkward dogleg...
All good fun!
Cheers, thanks for your input  O0
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #5 on: 15:24:41, 03/03/20 »
I can't really see the quad track you mean in the OS aerial view but it is not a line I have ever contemplated.  The edge of Mallerstang Edge does what it says on the tin so I have never tried it.
The traditional line is part of this https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/route/1911463/150607-Yomp.  I have done other trips ion that ridge but the have all been along it.
Have a look in haroldstreet.org.uk. You can call up a map of routes in that area.  Any belonging to ninthace are mine so I could answer questions on them.
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #6 on: 00:54:21, 04/03/20 »
I can't really see the quad track you mean in the OS aerial view but it is not a line I have ever contemplated.  The edge of Mallerstang Edge does what it says on the tin so I have never tried it.
The traditional line is part of this https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/route/1911463/150607-Yomp.  I have done other trips ion that ridge but the have all been along it.
Have a look in haroldstreet.org.uk. You can call up a map of routes in that area.  Any belonging to ninthace are mine so I could answer questions on them.
cheers, I'm on it now
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #7 on: 02:10:34, 04/03/20 »
cheers, I'm on it now
I've replotted a route that I think will work  - looks good - picks up a clear path/trod on N side of Hell Gill to pass by the sheepfold - crosses the hill bagger's track and (on your N/S line - I'm presuming, for now, that's where the cairn is) and goes W downhill... falling asleep at the wheel now though...
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #8 on: 15:46:09, 04/03/20 »
I've replotted a route that I think will work  - looks good - picks up a clear path/trod on N side of Hell Gill to pass by the sheepfold - crosses the hill bagger's track and (on your N/S line - I'm presuming, for now, that's where the cairn is) and goes W downhill... falling asleep at the wheel now though...
Gpx file into GE Pro ...
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #9 on: 16:06:03, 04/03/20 »
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Gpx file into GE Pro ...

Can't check it I'm afraid - need to be logged into FB.

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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #10 on: 16:47:19, 04/03/20 »
Can't check it I'm afraid - need to be logged into FB.
Ditto - no farcebook account
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #11 on: 17:10:18, 04/03/20 »
Ditto - no farcebook account
Raw GPX file..? Sorry, I don't have an image only hosting whatsit..? For some reason I'm blocked from instagram... never used it lol
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #12 on: 17:29:59, 04/03/20 »
Raw GPX file..? Sorry, I don't have an image only hosting whatsit..? For some reason I'm blocked from instagram... never used it lol
  Screengrab and post it via postimage.org.  You do not need an account.
There are also public file sharing facilities - not my area of expertise though but I have consumed the product.  I am sure there is someone who could talk you through it.
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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #13 on: 19:16:24, 04/03/20 »
For the GPX file itself in text form, you could try PasteBin.

I've never used it myself, quite amazing after so many years of being aware of it, but it seems it couldn't be easier: to post a block of text you don't need an account, just paste the text into the textbox and hit Create New Paste.
Then I assume it gives you a link to your Paste.

Be a pioneer and let us know if it works  :)

Incidentally, I checked the options and this board doesn't permit attachments to posts.

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Re: Hugh Seat/Mallerstang query
« Reply #14 on: 19:41:09, 04/03/20 »
I was thinking something less complicated such as:
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