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richardh1905

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Lightwave Tents anyone?
« on: 22:07:53, 22/06/20 »
WildWalkingUK reviewed the single skin Lightwave S10 Sigma one man 4 season tent earlier this year - good review, but single skin is not the way that I want to go.


Anyone else have any experience of Lightwave tents?
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« Reply #1 on: 11:31:47, 23/06/20 »
I had an Ultimate Tramp 1 for many years, but the time had finally come to replace it, and with something a bit lighter if possible
I like the sloping ridge design, but it looks like they are no longer made, so I got a Lightwave t10, which is a sloping tunnel, so a similar shape
When I started using it I found that there wasn't as much room as the Tramp, and stretching the outer tent over the hoop poles to clip them onto the ends was an absolute struggle; and the sides flapped and billowed around too much

On the plus side, the Lightwave was well made, so perhaps a different model from Lightwave would be OK?

I got rid of the t10 and bought an MSR NX1, which I'm very happy with
It's roomy for one; straight forward to pitch; fairly light, and cheaper than an Akto (well, isn't anything?); and packs down small
The standard of sewing and general construction is excellent, among the best I've seen

So besides the Lightwave tent, I'd have a look at MSR's website and see if they have anything that would suit you

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« Reply #2 on: 13:32:15, 23/06/20 »
Thanks Zuludog - it is the T10 Trek or Trail that caught my eye. Seen some good reviews.


I've looked at MSR, but the only tent that can really be described as 4 season is the Access, a bit beyond my price range I'm afraid. Also have my eye on the Nordisk Svalbard SI.
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« Reply #3 on: 14:45:11, 23/06/20 »
I know a couple of people who have Nordisk tents, though I don't know which models, and they are happy enough

I wouldn't like to use a t10 type tent in winter - I can imagine it being very susceptible in side winds
I would insist on seeing the tent pitched before I thought about buying one

Oh, and a comment about all tents now - the makers use all sorts of tricks to reduce the cost and weight. Typically they will only supply the absolute minimum of pegs and/or guys to put the thing up
What most people would expect they class as ' for extreme conditions'
And missing out the bags
This sort of thing is probably hidden somewhere in the fine print, so while it might be legal, I regard it as sharp practice

So when you're shopping around double check exactly what you're getting, and compare like for like. Allow for any extra cost or weight accordingly

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« Reply #4 on: 16:45:13, 23/06/20 »
Indeed - I hate it when they quote a weight that doesn't include the bags or the pegs. Lightwave I don't think are guilty of that, and supply a mixture of pegs, including some pretty beefy looking pegs for soft ground.


Edit - I don't share your concern about tunnel tents, as long as they are well designed. I'm thinking of the likes of the Nallo, and I suspect that the Lightwave Arctic tunnel tent is a real bomber too. Not that I need an expedition tent!
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« Reply #5 on: 17:44:58, 23/06/20 »
Well on the strength of this review, and the follow up comments, I've gone and ordered a Lightwave Trek T10, clearance stock as the model has been superseded by their Trail range, a steal at 129 inc postage.
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« Reply #6 on: 12:31:54, 25/06/20 »
The Lightwave T10 Trek arrived today, pretty fast delivery. Tent looks high quality, well finished. 40d Silnylon outer, DAC poles, plenty of guying points, looks like a little toughie. One minus - some pegs were missing, but a quick phone call to the manufacturer sorted that, some will be in the post tomorrow.


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« Reply #7 on: 07:57:55, 26/06/20 »
Bit of a devil to put up for the first time, but with practice should be easy enough. Tent is of high quality. I'll do a review after I've done some real camping in it.
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Re: Lightwave Tents anyone?
« Reply #8 on: 10:17:05, 27/12/20 »
Hi Richardh1905,
how are you getting on with the T10 Trek?...I was thinking of getting one myself.
Couple of Q's
1. In the article/review it says that you can set it up with both fly/inner attached rather than the instructions (inner first) have you tried this and how easy was it?
2. Whats the venting/condensation like?
3. Space/size i'm 5,10 could i lie straight on a think mat without worrying about touching the inner/fly together?
4. Whats it like in strong winds i.e. does the inner/fly touch?
Thanks

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Re: Lightwave Tents anyone?
« Reply #9 on: 17:46:55, 28/12/20 »

Hi Bman1, and welcome to the forum.




I have wild camped up on the fells with the Trek 10 for 7 nights now, and it has withstood very strong gusting winds and heavy rain without problems. In answer to your questions:
1 - I haven't tried to set it up with the fly and inner attached. I have pitched it twice in rain and it was possible to partially attach the fly to protect the main part of the inner during erection, but I'm not really worried about it as the inner dries very quickly if it gets a bit wet.
2 - ventilation is OK - the upper part of the inner door is mesh. The vent above the fly door is a bit useless, but I haven't had too much of an issue with ventilation or condensation.
3 - space is pretty good, although bear in mind that I am only 5'6. I doubt that you would have a problem.
4 - I can't remember a problem with the fly touching when I did camp in a night of especially strong gusting winds. I was careful to pitch end on to the wind though - if it was a strong side wind, I would imagine that there might be a problem. I was more concerned with the fly cracking like a whip - kept me awake most of the night (I now pack foam ear plugs) - but the wind really was quite violent.




All in all it is an excellent tent for the money, perhaps not the easiest to pitch as the poles really are quite tight in the sleeves, and the fly is attached to the inner and poles with no less than 8 velco straps! I'm not complaining - this no doubt adds to the strength of the tent. I would be happy to use this tent in all but the most extreme conditions.




The Trek T10 is still available for 129 from https://crux-outlet.online/product/t10-trek - an absolute steal for a 4 season silnylon tent, in my opinion. Customer service is excellent - they sent me some extra 'Breaker' pegs - real bombers for the front and rear peg out points - especially important in a tunnel tent.




Hope that this helps  :)
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« Reply #10 on: 17:50:41, 28/12/20 »
COPY OF A REVIEW THAT I DID EARLIER THIS YEAR


Thought that I had better give a bit of feedback now that I have used The Lightwave T10 Trek in anger.


Pros:+ cheap for a high quality 4 season one man tent.
+ good quality materials - 40d silnylon and DAC alloy poles.
+ tough: it was pretty wild on my last trip, the tent got a real hammering in the gusting wind. I have confidence in it.
+ high enough to sit up in - definitely not a coffin!
+ the 4 spiral 'Breaker' tent pegs supplied are real bombers - just what you need for securing the front and rear of the fly - important in a tunnel design, and worth the extra weight (I pack 3 on a trip). Also supplied are aluminium nail and smaller spiral 'Wavelight' extruded pegs - I don't use the small spiral ones.
+ good after sales - for some reason the advertised Breaker pegs were missing, but a quick phone call sorted that. And spare poles for all of Lightwave's older designs are available. Not that I am expecting a breakage, but accidents happen.
+ British company - not that I am ultra patriotic about these things, but it is good to support a smaller British company.
+ solid inner.


Cons:
- inner first. But the inner has a water repellent finish. Lightwave claim that the inner first construction is stronger.
- a bit of a fiddle to pitch compared to 'all in one' designs. In particular, the outer is attached to the poles using velcro straps in no less than eight places - I presume this gives the tent extra strength and stability, so I shouldn't grumble. Took me about ten minutes on my last trip, but the wind was very strong, so I took my time.
- if you are careless about pitching the inner, there is a possibility that the aluminium nail tent pegs can damage the fly when you peg that out. I managed to tear a small hole in the base of the fly as a consequence of getting this wrong by leaving the inner tent peg protruding a couple of inches (now repaired). To avoid the possibility of this happening again, I have added 3 aluminium wire hook type pegs, with nicely rounded tops.
- the porch in particular flaps in strong winds.
- The silnylon flysheet seams are not sealed. I've been out in some very wet and windy weather, and haven't found this to be a problem in practice.


Weight - 1.7kg all in - not the lightest, but it is a tough 4 season tent.
Would I recommend it? A cautious YES, if you are serious about camping high in all seasons and are on a tight budget, but this is not a beginners tent.

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